MonsieurBacon Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Can you start selling that for Platinum? It would be really cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdenmcclure Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 The design council ladies and gentlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I want to know the kind of individual that would pay to skip leveling their gear entirely. People can already halve the time it would take via affinity boosters :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgez Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Well, Faktum *is* the same person that said "I won't put any more money into this game until there is serious PvP," so please don't use them as an example of the rest of us in the council. Edited May 30, 2013 by Gadgez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaemhameforash Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Man I remember when there were on-line shops offering level 99 characters for Diablo 2 for a hefty price. Question is- why would you do that? Why would you take the fun away from yourself? I understand that with the recent Forma addition that could seem like a good idea for certain players, but I think it would also contradict what DE had in mind when they added it. The recent live-stream and the one where they announced it would suggest this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraudingZebra Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 They'd be stepping into some pretty dangerous territory if they did that. I personally don't care... This game isn't PvP focused and if someone wants to skip the leveling experience, that's their choice I suppose. Plus, more money for DE to make updates. I can imagine there'd be severe backlash if they did this though, so I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 That would make the game P2W essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurBacon Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Well, Faktum *is* the same person that said "I won't put any more money into this game until there is serious PvP," so please don't use them as an example of the rest of us in the council. Ring the church bells ladies and gentlemen, I know who the Stalker is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure_Kytia Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah, there is no fun to be had autolevelling your gear. It kinda defeats the whole premise of the game's Mastery System. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraudingZebra Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 That would make the game P2W essentially. Yes and no. The game is focused on PvE, so really, the person would only be ruining the experience for themselves. Of course, in the case of matchmaking and PvP in Dojos, there could be problems. That's why this is a little tricky. I think it'd be best for them to refrain from doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostosti Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I see no problem with this. As long there is a way for free to play players to achieve this as well, which there is obviously, duh, just play the game. So I would have no problem at all with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irfir Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Well, Faktum *is* the same person that said "I won't put any more money into this game until there is serious PvP," so please don't use him as an example of the rest of us in the council. I remember a post ( unofficial Design Council ) about "mentos"...enough said :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgez Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Ring the church bells ladies and gentlemen, I know who the Stalker is! It was recent, that's all. I have a good memory, and I mentioned it in the Tenno skype group my friends and I have (which means I actually saw your post once more this morning) So no Stalker here, sorry to disappoint :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdenmcclure Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Well, Faktum *is* the same person that said "I won't put any more money into this game until there is serious PvP," so please don't use them as an example of the rest of us in the council. Having disposable income doesn't mean you have good ideas and input, so the idea that paying money gives you influence over the game's development is either a very bad idea, or disingenuous of DE for leading someone to believe they'll be able to wield their Sephiroth sword in game for 250 dollars. Edited May 30, 2013 by holdenmcclure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebreccer Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Can we have an option to build the entire dojo with platinum? The more platinum you soak the more % you will get into your rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosstnt Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 wont work. people will end up instantly leveling frames just so they can repolarize. Leveling is part of the game, u should be used to it by now. Takes about 2 days to level a frame to 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yes and no. The game is focused on PvE, so really, the person would only be ruining the experience for themselves. Of course, in the case of matchmaking and PvP in Dojos, there could be problems. That's why this is a little tricky. I think it'd be best for them to refrain from doing this. It would be a yes. How is instantly leveling up not winning? Regardless of if its PvE or PvP, he would be paying money for an advantage in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 It would be a yes. How is instantly leveling up not winning? Regardless of if its PvE or PvP, he would be paying money for an advantage in the game. It could also be considered paying to NOT play the game at that. Why would you do it? Part of the thing when leveling a new warframe/weapon is learning how to use it, and trying the abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I don't know what to say to the OP. really you've spent cash and find your self UP? why would any one want to buy level 30 gear on a game that's not pvp, and what will you do, all your gear is maxed (and like holy cow still in beta) when its a game about levelling the gear you play for. once again me thinks this thread is another joke thread. not much of a laugh from me this time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraudingZebra Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 It would be a yes. How is instantly leveling up not winning? Regardless of if its PvE or PvP, he would be paying money for an advantage in the game. I suppose in a simple sense, you're right, He would be paying, and he would be winning. But if that is how you look at it then the game is already pay-to-win. I guess it just depends on what you define as pay-to-win. For me, if you can buy something in the game that can't be reached in any other way, that's pay to win. But you can get to the max level pretty fast already. Also, even if it does give him an advantage in the game, I *personally* don't care, because he's just fighting AI, not other players who have to deal with that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm against this idea. However, when you look at what happens when you purchase a weapon for example, you automatically get double the points for mods. Pay-to-win? I don't know, maybe. That's really up for the individual to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendairyWarframe Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Mod pack + fusion pack =? Credit and affinity boost + warframe pack=? Any dumber to work it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I suppose in a simple sense, you're right, He would be paying, and he would be winning. But if that is how you look at it then the game is already pay-to-win. I guess it just depends on what you define as pay-to-win. For me, if you can buy something in the game that can't be reached in any other way, that's pay to win. But you can get to the max level pretty fast already. Also, even if it does give him an advantage in the game, I *personally* don't care, because he's just fighting AI, not other players who have to deal with that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm against this idea. However, when you look at what happens when you purchase a weapon for example, you automatically get double the points for mods. Pay-to-win? I don't know, maybe. That's really up for the individual to decide. For me, P2W is getting something without having to work for it. Like BF3, you can work your way up for rewards, or you can pay for better weapons. Same goes for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemia Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) I suppose in a simple sense, you're right, He would be paying, and he would be winning. But if that is how you look at it then the game is already pay-to-win. I guess it just depends on what you define as pay-to-win. For me, if you can buy something in the game that can't be reached in any other way, that's pay to win. But you can get to the max level pretty fast already. Also, even if it does give him an advantage in the game, I *personally* don't care, because he's just fighting AI, not other players who have to deal with that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm against this idea. However, when you look at what happens when you purchase a weapon for example, you automatically get double the points for mods. Pay-to-win? I don't know, maybe. That's really up for the individual to decide. Throw two new people into the game at the same time (first guy buys level 30, new guns, new frame, mods etc). Put them both into separate but equal missions. First one to complete it wins. Who is going to win? Now do the same with PVP between the two. Who is going to win? Put both players in the same mission, whoever gets the highest scores wins. Who is going to win? Technically, any way you look at it. Being able to buy anything that isn't just for aesthetics, is pay to win in some way. It is giving you an advantage over others who do not pay in some form. Edited May 30, 2013 by Pandemia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnal Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 It would be a yes. How is instantly leveling up not winning? Regardless of if its PvE or PvP, he would be paying money for an advantage in the game. That really depends on your definition of winning. I've actually kinda wonder what kind of 'winning' people were talking about when they say Warframe is pay2win. For me, I've only 'won' the game once I've 30 ranked every frame and weapon. I guess by that definition with instant plat levelling I could pay to win, but that would defeat the purpose of the game would it not? There's not some magical thing you get in this game for 'winning,' therefore 'winning' only has what value you assign to it on your own terms. If someone pays for every frame and weapon at rank 30, they've essentially deprived themselves of the majority of the longevity of the game. Also, since there are no leaderboards for things like most weapons leveled in the game there is not reliable way for people who have to lord it over others. Thus that definition of 'winning' only really has value intrinsic to the act, with none of that value being extrinsic or seen by other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenige Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah, there is no fun to be had autolevelling your gear. It kinda defeats the whole premise of the game's Mastery System. true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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