(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Since last update . I'm getting a damage out reduction to any weapon I use, ability,frame. This used to be a problem I had just when I hosted but now it's no matter what. Example. My 6 forma tonkor before was doing 80-100k+ average crits. No buffs on. Now same exact setup. I've gotten as low as 157 crit ...yes that's right 157... And now norm seems to be around 3500k crit to 30k high. My atomos was doing 1500-4500 average hits prior. Now the average is around 4-500...with 1500 being the high. This is a huge difference when you try and do end game stuff. I know it's not just me because my friend is having same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Extinguished dragon key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 No. No keys on. It's not something I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Since last update . I'm getting a damage out reduction to any weapon I use, ability,frame. This used to be a problem I had just when I hosted but now it's no matter what. Example. My 6 forma tonkor before was doing 80-100k+ average crits. No buffs on. Now same exact setup. I've gotten as low as 157 crit ...yes that's right 157... And now norm seems to be around 3500k crit to 30k high. My atomos was doing 1500-4500 average hits prior. Now the average is around 4-500...with 1500 being the high. This is a huge difference when you try and do end game stuff. I know it's not just me because my friend is having same issue. That seems normal for the atomos. I think the Tonkors crits got nerfed. There is also the chance than a DR ancient or two was nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) It's not normal because my numbers are way lower than they were before. It's not just tonkor and atomos. It's ANY weapon I use. I just can't believe that I'm the only one noticing. Edited October 30, 2015 by (PS4)selfproclaimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Tested again with atomos. This time with chroma with max fury. Numbers averages between 1k-4700k ... Now if you know chroma and his fury , you know that is BS. Edited October 30, 2015 by (PS4)selfproclaimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Tonkor (and other explosives) had headshots removed from explosions, if your numbers are roughly two to four times lower than what you remembered it, it's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) It's not that. Because I tested the buff with my soma and Boltor . Both are 4 times lower than where they were too. I can't stress enough how it's not a key. An ancient. Explosion weapon nerf. It's ANY weapon and having a max fury on any of the weapons. The damage is not where it used to be . Not even close. Edited October 30, 2015 by (PS4)selfproclaimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dragon15423 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Tonkor is still doing 90-100k dmg without any buffs. Also it can land a headshot like it used to . so i think its a bug for u maybe or something try equiping the extinguish key then unequip it . it may solve it other than that i dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Tonkor is still doing 90-100k dmg without any buffs. Also it can land a headshot like it used to . so i think its a bug for u maybe or something try equiping the extinguish key then unequip it . it may solve it other than that i dont know. Step ahead of you . Tried that,lol but THANK YOU. It is a bug. Thank you. You know where the damage numbers are supposed to be at. I know. I use certain ones excessively. I notice every detail. I feel like I'm going crazy. My friend is having same issue so I was wondering how widespread it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dragon15423 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Step ahead of you . Tried that,lol but THANK YOU. It is a bug. Thank you. You know where the damage numbers are supposed to be at. I know. I use certain ones excessively. I notice every detail. I feel like I'm going crazy. My friend is having same issue so I was wondering how widespread it is. oh than the only thing left to do is to contact the support but it will take a lot of time (like forever ) to get a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Yea I figure that. I mad e a post in the bugs forum a long time ago and it never got fixed. So I contacted support today. I imagine it'll take forever for a response. Then forever and a day for a fix if at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)wonderwoman814 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 DE EXPOSED LOL i don't think anything really changed it feels the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 DE EXPOSED LOL i don't think anything really changed it feels the same to me. It's not affecting everyone. But I'm definitely getting bugged bad. It's completely screwed up my game with how bad it reducing damage. I know what my builds were producing before and what numbers to expect and it's completely shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Have u tried removing all your mods, them add them back on? If u have the simulcrum you can spawn a weak unarmoured enemy to check damage. Test your weapon without mods and then with mods. When testing remove all other weapons except the one you are testing and dont use powers or bring sentinel. You want to remove as many variables as possible in order to test. Edited October 30, 2015 by 321agemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Have u tried removing all your mods, them add them back on? If u have the simulcrum you can spawn a weak unarmoured enemy to check damage. Test your weapon without mods and then with mods. When testing remove all other weapons except the one you are testing and dont use powers or bring sentinel. You want to remove as many variables as possible in order to test. Tried that too. Didn't work. It's definitley some sort of bug. I'm considering deleting my warframe then redownloading it overnight to see if that works because frankly I think I've tried everything now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Stealth nerfs do happen man. I can't say i play chroma in his fury build enough to know the exact numbers I expect to see.... but.... if the damage is 90-100k, is there really a problem? I mean it's never fun to have anything nerfed, granted, but is it really the end of the world if you're doing 100k instead of 900k? I think with 4x Corrosive Projection mobs do eventually hit an HP cap and i think that the damage will still near oneshot? Don't quote me, I'm mostly talking out of my !. If, however, there is a bug impeding your character specifically, then I hope it's fixed because no one likes playing with one hand tied behind their back. Well, maybe if they're bored. Edited October 30, 2015 by Skaleek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NachoZissou Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I've only done one mission since the update but my experience on it matches with your issue. It was a Rescue so I took my Opticor, which I built mainly to one shot tough enemies like wardens, and even on a half charge had never failed to do so, it's just so powerful. However even with a fully charged shot it only took around half the health off a level 40 warden. No headshot and probably no crit but I don't recall anything withstanding a full power Opticor blast before and my first thought was "nerf?". Not exactly thorough testing but I thought it was worth mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Stealth nerfs do happen man. I can't say i play chroma in his fury build enough to know the exact numbers I expect to see.... but.... if the damage is 90-100k, is there really a problem? I mean it's never fun to have anything nerfed, granted, but is it really the end of the world if you're doing 100k instead of 900k? I think with 4x Corrosive Projection mobs do eventually hit an HP cap and i think that the damage will still near oneshot? Don't quote me, I'm mostly talking out of my !. If, however, there is a bug impeding your character specifically, then I hope it's fixed because no one likes playing with one hand tied behind their back. Well, maybe if they're bored. This isn't a stealth nerf or chroma problem. The 90-100k crits I could get with tonkor before with NO buffs at all. With right build that is normal. Now, I've had as low as 157 crit with same build and a high of 30s. I only mention the tonkor as an example. It's not a tonkor nerf. It's ANY weapon AND ability that puts out damage with any warframe I use is reduced. Any ability to any frame I try. It's reduced. Any weapon, it's reduced. it's not fun at all knowing half my damage output is gone. All the time and work I spent building things up to be strong is pretty much messed up. Edited October 30, 2015 by (PS4)selfproclaimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm using this as an example. It's not just tonkor. But here is my tonkor build. Someone build similar and tell me what type of damage numbers your getting with yours, from low,average to high. I test mine in T2 survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MrPickelstimes4 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm not a guy who pays attention to the numbers or anything, but I was playing last night doing a T3 Sab and I brought my Boar Prime with me. It felt like it was doing much less damage than usual. And I'm pretty sure I've used it since the status chance was nerfed and it wasn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)selfproclaimed Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm using this as an example. It's not just tonkor. But here is my tonkor build. Someone build similar and tell me what type of damage numbers your getting with yours, from low,average to high. I test mine in T2 survival. Please, someone with a similar build. Post your damage numbers. I know I have a bad bug. Just tired of people thinking it's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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