ukovalian Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 comic strip inspiration current theory natah is behind this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukovalian Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 natah is watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Just happened to me. Perhaps this has something to do with the Neural Sentry controlling the towers Edited October 4, 2015 by Arthan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alighierian Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 comic strip inspiration current theory natah is behind this I take it you didnt read the post on the first page? and if she wants to do something with the whole sentient message stuff, she will, in due time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 "Good night, sweet angel." = To remotely and fully control an avatar, having all motor signals from one's brain sent not to your real body, but to the intended Warframe instead would result in your true body taking on a sleep-like state where it does not move. Great interpretation!! About this last message, since lotus was the one in charge of destroying the tenno, maybe she is putting us to sleep again. Just a though though. Also, since the sentients seems mechanical and the the infested keep telling us that we are flesh just like them, maybe us tennos are some kind of biological parasites that can get inside mechanical suits(tin-suits, maroo hint). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 No, we are fruit-head lizards. This is so obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiancaRoughfin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I just got this transmission when joining Dark Sector Defense - Sechura in Pluto. Never seen it happen before so i had to rush to the forums to see what it was about. Im curious about the translation made by bowiespoon the part it says "Good night sweet angel". Is that referring to the Lotus or is it a spoiler of something yet to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicfanx1 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 OH THANK GOD I AM NOT CRAZY! That scared the living crap out of me. Jesus Christ I honestly thought I was going to die for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think, Lotus is losing control over the situation. Truth about Natah, the whole Sentient thing... Something is going to happen very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphelion_Sole Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 But if what campainger said is correct then wouldnt that mean that if a warframe is destroyed while being operated by the tenno then they truly die I think that the mind is permenantly outside the orignial body but the body itself supplys the warframe with the void energy to fight. If the origninal body dies then the warframe can still work on its own but without the abillity to use its powers, but if the warframe dies then so dose the actuall person because their mind can not be transfered back to their origninal body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 There are already dozens of strange-looking theories. Please, stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphelion_Sole Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think, Lotus is losing control over the situation. Truth about Natah, the whole Sentient thing... Something is going to happen very soon. Me shooting sentients with a sonicor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Me shooting sentients with a sonicor I would prefer to shoot Lotus with a sonicor, but, I think, no one would allow me to :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphelion_Sole Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Wait a minute, if this is a hint on how the tenno work then maby its a hint on how to kill sentients If sentients work the same way but somehow "inperfect" then maby its that blue orb in the middle Sentients would keep getting back up unless you destroy the orb in the middle, and the orb would be their collective consciousness and energy. Maby just Maby The tenno are sentients. Edited October 4, 2015 by williamwatsonMH4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Wait a minute, if this is a hint on how the tenno work then maby its a hint on how to kill sentients If sentients work the same way but somehow "inperfect" then maby its that blue orb in the middle Sentients would keep getting back up unless you destroy the orb in the middle, and the orb would be their collective consciousness and energy. Maby just Maby The tenno are sentients. No, we are not Sentients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSolaran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I watched a bit of a DK and his theories and it got some gears turning in my head If I may add a theory: The Neural Sentry may be dying or more likely being attacked by the Sentient, They are poisoned by the void so wouldn't destroying it make sense. They could accomplish this through controlling the Tenno (Chroma quest, why would he be fighting you unless something other than the Lotus had taken the wheel) Sentient likely had some kind of malicious code inserted into the void (akin to mobile defense) or had the tenno they controlled attack the sentry directly, as a backup the sentry may be transferring to moon or reactivating the moon base as a procedure intended to protect the Orokin if the Sentient ever won against them and destroyed the Void Towers. This also opens a possibility... with the Void destroyed and prime warframes unavailable wouldn't the Orokin want a back up guard as well, like something hidden away in the dark of the moon, something the Sentient have no idea about... here enters the Umbra (Latin word for Shadow) Warframes. Any Thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I watched a bit of a DK and his theories and it got some gears turning in my head If I may add a theory: The Neural Sentry may be dying or more likely being attacked by the Sentient, They are poisoned by the void so wouldn't destroying it make sense. They could accomplish this through controlling the Tenno (Chroma quest, why would he be fighting you unless something other than the Lotus had taken the wheel) Sentient likely had some kind of malicious code inserted into the void (akin to mobile defense) or had the tenno they controlled attack the sentry directly, as a backup the sentry may be transferring to moon or reactivating the moon base as a procedure intended to protect the Orokin if the Sentient ever won against them and destroyed the Void Towers. This also opens a possibility... with the Void destroyed and prime warframes unavailable wouldn't the Orokin want a back up guard as well, like something hidden away in the dark of the moon, something the Sentient have no idea about... here enters the Umbra (Latin word for Shadow) Warframes. Any Thoughts on this? So, Grineer are actually so blind? Lotus is unaware of Umbras existence? What will Umbras do? Support Lotus? Why? Their masters and creators are gone. Their archnemesis is back. Humanity and civilization are divided into Corpus and Grineer. What would they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSolaran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Margoolihs/Margoolis might be related to a word for pearl "Pearl implantation intact" still weird message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSolaran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So, Grineer are actually so blind? Lotus is unaware of Umbras existence? What will Umbras do? Support Lotus? Why? Their masters and creators are gone. Their archnemesis is back. Humanity and civilization are divided into Corpus and Grineer. What would they do? Well I'm not sure about the original umbra tenno (helping, being alive at this point, or anything else), but their frames may be of use. And (speculating) Grineer like Tyl Regor may be interested in finding Sentient and Orokin tech, but in-game what possible clue would they have that anything was on the moon (aside from not even being activated yet(so Orokin architecture could still be under the surface, in shadows, etc.): it may or may not be Earth's moon, the grineer aren't famous for being speculative thinkers, Lotus is a Sentient too, and if this was a last haven against the Sentient only the highest caste of Orokin would know, not the tenno, grineer, or even corpus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Well I'm not sure about the original umbra tenno (helping, being alive at this point, or anything else), but their frames may be of use. And (speculating) Grineer like Tyl Regor may be interested in finding Sentient and Orokin tech, but in-game what possible clue would they have that anything was on the moon (aside from not even being activated yet(so Orokin architecture could still be under the surface, in shadows, etc.): it may or may not be Earth's moon, the grineer aren't famous for being speculative thinkers, Lotus is a Sentient too, and if this was a last haven against the Sentient only the highest caste of Orokin would know, not the tenno, grineer, or even corpus) This makes sense. Lotus is completely unaware of Umbras. They were created to protect Orokin, bur from what kind of threat? Not from complete extermination, It seems. I think, their true purpose is to protect the Universe from Sentients, in case they would return. Edited October 4, 2015 by Charles_Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSolaran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 This makes sense. Lotus is completely unaware of Umbras. They were created to protect Orokin, bur from what kind of threat? Not from complete extermination, It seems. I think, their true purpose is to protect the Universe from Sentients, in case they would return. As I said, the moon may be the last haven, the umbras were intended as the last line of defense. The Orokin are selfish as far as the sanctuary data illustrates so naturally they keep their trump card for high privledged castes. And yes it was a defense against extermination, but they expected the Sentients to be the ones to do it, not the Tenno. In other words, umbras were possibly made because tenno and primes were expected to lose and die, just like the original Mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Unlife Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 But if what campainger said is correct then wouldnt that mean that if a warframe is destroyed while being operated by the tenno then they truly die I think that the mind is permenantly outside the orignial body but the body itself supplys the warframe with the void energy to fight. If the origninal body dies then the warframe can still work on its own but without the abillity to use its powers, but if the warframe dies then so dose the actuall person because their mind can not be transfered back to their origninal body. doesnt Vor mention tearing corpses out of warframes and also the Excalibur codex states that the warframes were built around the "survivors who returned from the void* I dont think that Warframes are remote controls (as why would a remote control suit need oxygen and why would it bleed?) back on topic i think this is all about the void being destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I watched a bit of a DK and his theories and it got some gears turning in my head If I may add a theory: The Neural Sentry may be dying or more likely being attacked by the Sentient, They are poisoned by the void so wouldn't destroying it make sense. They could accomplish this through controlling the Tenno (Chroma quest, why would he be fighting you unless something other than the Lotus had taken the wheel) Sentient likely had some kind of malicious code inserted into the void (akin to mobile defense) or had the tenno they controlled attack the sentry directly, as a backup the sentry may be transferring to moon or reactivating the moon base as a procedure intended to protect the Orokin if the Sentient ever won against them and destroyed the Void Towers. This also opens a possibility... with the Void destroyed and prime warframes unavailable wouldn't the Orokin want a back up guard as well, like something hidden away in the dark of the moon, something the Sentient have no idea about... here enters the Umbra (Latin word for Shadow) Warframes. Any Thoughts on this? DK is wrong go back and read Campaigner's post about the Void link severed being our link to the warframe being severed by a sentient carrier and Lotus putting us back to sleep and re-syncing us up with our warframe. I would like to present my interpretation of the translations provided thus far: that the Tenno's remote-controling OS is showing its Warframe connection reestablishment protocol window. Quotes are in bold. Definitions are in normal text. Interpretive analysis is in italics. "Void-Link Severed" = Seems like the Tenno lost connection from the Warframe temporarily. "Reason foreigner carrier detected. Origin Unknown. Suspection Trapping Signal. Reinitializing dipolar connection in novel(/naval?) carrier." = Interference from something occurred. Sentient or Orokin tech messing with the Tenno-Warframe link perhaps? "Bio in standby for check and sync." = Warframe being prepped to be sync'd with the Tenno operator. The "bio" likely refers to the Warframe unit which does bleed and would thus necessarily have a nervous system, controlled by some intermediary that receives commands from the Tenno. "Motion compensation complete." = "Motion compensation describes a picture in terms of the transformation of a reference picture to the current picture. The reference picture may be previous in time or even from the future. When images can be accurately synthesized from previously transmitted/stored images, the compression efficiency can be improved (wikipedia)." This makes it seem like all sensory data from the Warframe is sent to the Tenno in a more compressed, efficient state to make response time faster to compensate for distance lag. "Selenic lensing locked" = "Selenic" (meaning related to the Moon) & "lensing" (referring to focusing of energy). Somehow, the moon seems to be related to Tenno-Warframe link upkeep. "Somatic control established" = "Somatic" (of the body). This must be the "check" stated earlier in the link protocol. The intermediary component in the Waframe (like an artificial thalamus acting as the central relay hub between the biological Warframe and the distant Tenno) likely checks to see that it can relay orders to the nervous system and sends feedback to the Tenno's operating system. This check was positive. "Margulis(?) implantation intact. EVM status nominal." = EVM (electronic voltmeter/error vector magnitude?). Whatever these implantation and EVM components may be, they must be vital. "War platform awaiting sync." = The later step of the "Bio in standby for check and sync" line stated earlier. The check resulted in "somatic control established" and now the Warframe is prepared to receive synchronization though the "selenic lensing" that has already been established. "Initializing somatic overlay." = Overlay (to cover, mount, diffuse over). This must be the stage where the Tenno's consciousness appears to inhabit the Warframe avatar."Good night, sweet angel." = To remotely and fully control an avatar, having all motor signals from one's brain sent not to your real body, but to the intended Warframe instead would result in your true body taking on a sleep-like state where it does not move. This here is the best theory out of all theories so far. Make sure DK reads that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Rex Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 DK is wrong go back and read Campaigner's post about the Void link severed being our link to the warframe being severed by a sentient carrier and Lotus putting us back to sleep and re-syncing us up with our warframe. This here is the best theory out of all theories so far. Make sure DK reads that. And where is the theory itself? We know that this message is clearly some technical preparations to activate Warframe, like the suit and systems check. The most interesting part - Void link severed. Origin unknown - so, it's clearly not Orokin, neither Grineer or Corpus. They can be identified without any problems. So, there must be some place where this Sentient drones came from. I doubt they are capable of planet-planet teleportation. Could this be a Sentient vessel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSolaran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 DK is wrong go back and read Campaigner's post about the Void link severed being our link to the warframe being severed by a sentient carrier and Lotus putting us back to sleep and re-syncing us up with our warframe. This here is the best theory out of all theories so far. Make sure DK reads that. Don't know how I would go about that, but that's a good theory too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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