(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 There is nothing more annoying than your sentinel getting destroyed while you're bleeding out as there is nothing you can do in most cases.They should respawn after a certain amount of time that scales up if they are destroyed frequently, and caps at 5 mins. Possibly as a mod or augment exclusive to sentinels. That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o.0- Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 An alternative is have a Gear Item that lets you bring the Sentinel back into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Eh. Being able to revive your pet is the one thing kubrows have going for them. Kinda unfair to take that away, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, motorfirebox said: Eh. Being able to revive your pet is the one thing kubrows have going for them. Kinda unfair to take that away, too. That is why I said there is a set amount of time till they respawn. At max (probably 4 deaths?) you'd wait a whole five minutes once that HP drops to zero, compared to just reviving them whenever they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Data-Zero Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 How about no? Kubro are already in disadvantage compared to Sentinels, this does not help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, (PS4)official_79 said: There is nothing more annoying than your sentinel getting destroyed while you're bleeding out as there is nothing you can do in most cases.They should respawn after a certain amount of time that scales up if they are destroyed frequently, and caps at 5 mins. Possibly as a mod or augment exclusive to sentinels. That is all There is a mod that lets your sentinel respawn once, instantly. And IIRC there's a recent update that affects enemies targeting your sentinel while you are bleeding out. Personally use my sentinel completely for utility, I don't even equip an attack precept or weapon on it so it doesn't get targeted when I'm bleeding out. If I want a pet that attacks something I'll use my immortal indestructible 7 forma Sunika. Also, when you use a revive your sentinel respawns. Edited May 9, 2016 by Gelkor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowiespoon Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, Data-Zero said: How about no? Kubro are already in disadvantage compared to Sentinels, this does not help at all. So, the useful companions should be held back because some people wanna justify taking a dog into a warzone instead of an automated assault drone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Data-Zero said: How about no? Kubro are already in disadvantage compared to Sentinels, this does not help at all. The purpose of my suggestion was not to disadvantage Kubrows, any type of buff or change to sentinels does not affect the effectiveness of a kubrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkheff Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gelkor said: There is a mod that lets your sentinel respawn once, instantly. Its not a respawn, its a heal... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, Sorkheff said: Its not a respawn, its a heal... :( Functionally, maybe, but for practical purposes it gives your Sentinel 1 extra life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Data-Zero Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, bowiespoon said: So, the useful companions should be held back because some people wanna justify taking a dog into a warzone instead of an automated assault drone? In reality, NOPE. In Warframe, YES. Just now, (PS4)official_79 said: The purpose of my suggestion was not to disadvantage Kubrows, any type of buff or change to sentinels does not affect the effectiveness of a kubrow. Actually it does. Kubro only benefit as of now is that it can be revived. Sentinel with it would make Kubro even more useless as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowiespoon Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Data-Zero said: In reality, NOPE. In Warframe, YES. Actually it does. Kubro only benefit as of now is that it can be revived. Sentinel with it would make Kubro even more useless as it is. Personally, I think kubrows are stupid and don't fit in with the rest of the game, but since they aren't going anywhere, DE may as well make them relevant. Kubrows are useless because of their bad AI, weak mods, melee only, bigger target than sentinels, meh damage, AND they don't have seperate mod slots for damage mods. If reviving is the only reason you own a kubrow, lose the kubrow and get a sentinel. Edited May 9, 2016 by bowiespoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Data-Zero said: Actually it does. Kubro only benefit as of now is that it can be revived. Sentinel with it would make Kubro even more useless as it is. Again, the respawn I proposed would scale up. At probably around 4 deaths, it would hit its cap of 5 minutes. Kubrows on the other hand could simply be revived when they go down with revival almost being a guarentee since they are always close to their master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o.0- Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well Kubrows can work well with Melee Frames, when you rock the Pack Leader mod. Inaros and its Health pool is another fine frame that can really make Kubrows tanky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, bowiespoon said: Personally, I think kubrows are stupid and don't fit in with the rest of the game, but since they aren't going anywhere, DE may as well make them relevant. Kubrows are useless because of their bad AI, weak mods, melee only, bigger target than sentinels, meh damage, AND they don't have seperate mod slots for damage mods. If reviving is the only reason you own a kubrow, lose the kubrow and get a sentinel. I don't use them because of the upkeep. With stats that degrade if they are active I prefer to just keep them in stasis. But hey, to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, SPARTAN-187.Thanatos said: Well Kubrows can work well with Melee Frames, when you rock the Pack Leader mod. Inaros and its Health pool is another fine frame that can really make Kubrows tanky Tanky would be an understatement xD, downright immortal if you know what you're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkheff Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Gelkor said: Functionally, maybe, but for practical purposes it gives your Sentinel 1 extra life. Unless it gets OHK'd. Which is the biggest problem for me. Damn Juggernauts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Data-Zero Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)official_79 said: Again, the respawn I proposed would scale up. At probably around 4 deaths, it would hit its cap of 5 minutes. Kubrows on the other hand could simply be revived when they go down with revival almost being a guarentee since they are always close to their master. Depends on the Warframe that the Kubro gets his stats from. 2 minutes ago, bowiespoon said: Personally, I think kubrows are stupid and don't fit in with the rest of the game, but since they aren't going anywhere, DE may as well make them relevant. Kubrows are useless because of their bad AI, weak mods, melee only, bigger target than sentinels, meh damage, AND they don't have seperate mod slots for damage mods, They have place in game, but their impact is either lackluster, or fit certain niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 on one hand it would be nice, since it's really annoying when you Helios gets instakilled before you come across something you need scans on, but on the other hand I'd say no because sentinels are already more favourable than Kubrows at it is, and many regard that Medi-Ray mod that came with Rathuum as the final nail in the Kubrows coffin, certainly at least until DE finally get around to tweaking their AI and introducing Kavats. I don't normally want to get involved with the Kubrow vs Sentinel debate, but Kubrows are greatly underpowered compared to sentinels no matter how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, bowiespoon said: So, the useful companions should be held back because some people wanna justify taking a dog into a warzone instead of an automated assault drone? We bring dogs into warzones in real life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kabanyash_ Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Making Sentinels "inactive" during bleedout would probably solve the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowiespoon Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, motorfirebox said: We bring dogs into warzones in real life... Yes we do, but they certaintly dont replace predator drones...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject_1974 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You want a respawn? Get a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 1 minute ago, bowiespoon said: Yes we do, but they certaintly dont replace predator drones...... Sure. They perform different roles, though. Drones are tools, dogs are companions and teammates. So it makes sense that when your drone goes down, you shrug and continue mission, and requisition a replacement when you get back to base. But if your dog gets wounded, you stop and patch her up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowiespoon Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, motorfirebox said: Sure. They perform different roles, though. Drones are tools, dogs are companions and teammates. So it makes sense that when your drone goes down, you shrug and continue mission, and requisition a replacement when you get back to base. But if your dog gets wounded, you stop and patch her up. Patch up my dog? The way I use them, there isnt much to patch up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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