Spoilers, A doll of Ordan Karris

[Miser_able]

Wow this topic got nekros'ed. 

On topic I love ordan and want some thing to commemorate getting all the fragments so maybe they could do what they did with kuria and release a noggle.

[Crashen]

You keep saying ordis is love, ordis is life. You do know that is referencing a meme about shrek the ogre forcibly raping a minor, right? Maybe not something you want to associate with your hero.

Besides that, lets be real here. Ordan Karris is basically space hitler. Except worse because he most likely killed MORE innocent people than hitler. Yeah he might have hated himself for killing people, but apparently he didnt hate himself enough to stop. Sure, he realized he did wrong, long after he did irrevocable damage. Fine, he seemed to have cared about his fellow genocidal murderers, but that really doesn't mean anything. Hitler loved Eva Braun, does that make him any less of a monster? Or a worse one, knowing he was CAPABLE of doing such awful things, and yet still feel love for someone else? 

Ordan hinself acknowledged he was a monster, irrevocably damned, and uninterested in redemption. He was such a monster that everytime Ordis learns the truth about who and what he was, he goes insane, wants to kill himself, and tries to destroy the memory of what he was.

Ordis is great, even if he is a lobotomized, brainwashed ship-slave, but lets not try to whitewash what his previous incarnation was. Some people dont deserve forgiveness or redemption. Ballas turning Ordan into Ordis was probably the most benevolent thing he ever did.