achromos Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SurrealEdge said: While hotfixes are good and all to fix any broken features and bugs, it's not a great long term plan since it'll just give them more work and the inevitable delays we get with the new content. Don't rush them, they already self imposed the rush onto themselves and we got a terrible mess that was Specters of the Rails(before hotfixes). Oh, trust me. I'm absolutely not rushing anything, (if you follow my full post) as a much smarter man once said: "A delayed (game) update is eventually good, but a rushed (game) update is forever bad." A somewhat changed quote, but please make sure to read the full post. As my intent is far from 'rushing' DE, this is curiosity and speculation of what people think in general would be a likely release for TWW. If it's not ready, then it's not ready. There's only so much coffee in Canada lol. Edited July 16, 2016 by achromos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 That quote kinda fell short on a particular game that was released June 21, 2016. And I didn't see the edit yet when I made the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Specters of the Rail was admittedly rushed. With the amount of bugs this update brought, DE still has work to do to push it to an acceptable state. The War Within has work in need of completion (quest soundtrack, motion capture, new mechanics from quest, Titania). Given these circumstances, I have firmly set my belief that it will not make it in July, regardless of how much has been done. It seems DE bit off way more than they could chew with U19's entirety. I really want a reason to play Warframe nowadays in search for something new and exciting, but this 7 month wait that may very well be turned to 8 for the release of major content has been dry and depressing. I'm hoping that the War Within can be released by the end, or soon before the end of July, I really am. Though at this point, it seems a miracle will be required to do so. I also sincerely hope this is complete pessimism and DE has an exceptional amount of work done. Edited July 16, 2016 by LazerSkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cephalon_Snow Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 @ the end of the latest prime time Steve said August..so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joe03827 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 end of July - early august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 In the latest Prime Time Steve said it could even be in August, so honestly I wouldn't get your hopes up if I were you. At least he did confirm some "special" content coming before the War Within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja_Of_Deep_Concern Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 w e l l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 The funniest part is that TWW will be completed in an hour and system it adds will likely be like Focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I don't think it's coming out in july either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racter Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Starting to feel like TWW is going to be our next anniversary log in reward at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I think they ran into issues that could not be rushed. In that time Steve has been taking advantage of the delays and trying to get Warframe working in high rez and introducing grass (and I presume hair) shaders and true volumetric light. The game is becoming incredibly.polished on the visual side of things. Now get the mechanics to match and we have a real gem. I am waiting for big things to impact ALL of Warframe like Bulletjumping and walllatch did (can't even remember not being able to do it now) and not a few hours content. For the complainers: what game can't be speed run in a few.hours to a day? Excluding MMOS and RPGs, this is commonplace. You demand too much from a game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 1 hour ago, arch111 said: Excluding MMOS and RPGs So basically, excluding genres that Warframe heavily draws from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 22 minutes ago, Redthirst said: So basically, excluding genres that Warframe heavily draws from? I mean persistent games, or rpgs that have a cohesive plot and a world to expore. Warframe is more like Lol than Wow or Shadow run or Deus Ex. I mean, even Destiny or any other big IP that get a DLC aren't that don't take so long to finish. Just like people complain about Warframe and how we BLAST through new content allmost like - what's the point of releasing quality Quests or Events. I would RATHER have big lasting releases- like Focus and the Operators, Syndicates and Relays all are - they just need to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 2 hours ago, (PS4)Minago2 said: I don't think it's coming out in july either. You sure? I still have hopes it'll be out by the end of July... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Haha ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 1 minute ago, arch111 said: I mean persistent games, or rpgs that have a cohesive plot and a world to expore. Warframe is more like Lol than Wow or Shadow run or Deus Ex. I mean, even Destiny or any other big IP that get a DLC aren't that don't take so long to finish. Just like people complain about Warframe and how we BLAST through new content allmost like - what's the point of releasing quality Quests or Events. I would RATHER have big lasting releases- like Focus and the Operators, Syndicates and Relays all are - they just need to grow. Um, even if we take the(nonsensical) comparison between Warframe and League of Legends, it doesn't make any sense. Games like LoL rely on replayabillity. New content is added, but it just refreshes the game a bit, while the core gameplay can be replayed many times in between those content additions. This same mechanism is how other horde shooters like Left4Dead, Killing Floor or Payday can have people play it for a long time. Warframe relies solely on new content additions. There is barely any replayability - people play it as long as there is something to grind. This makes Warframe more similar to games like Path of Exile, where people keep playing it because of variety of builds that are possible, said builds requiring a lot of grind to fully make, only Warframe has a rather shallow RPG system, so it doesn't work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, Redthirst said: Um, even if we take the(nonsensical) comparison between Warframe and League of Legends, it doesn't make any sense. Games like LoL rely on replayabillity. New content is added, but it just refreshes the game a bit, while the core gameplay can be replayed many times in between those content additions. This same mechanism is how other horde shooters like Left4Dead, Killing Floor or Payday can have people play it for a long time. Warframe relies solely on new content additions. There is barely any replayability - people play it as long as there is something to grind. This makes Warframe more similar to games like Path of Exile, where people keep playing it because of variety of builds that are possible, said builds requiring a lot of grind to fully make, only Warframe has a rather shallow RPG system, so it doesn't work as well. Yes exactly. People say give us more content, DE complies. But it's not built to last. Because Warframe used to be a small team based fastpaced shooter. Today it wants to be in 10 directions but the core is still based on quick games with no cohesion with the gameworld. Warframe is Pokemon with guns. But once you gotem all, you need.more. I made a point that for Warframe to break the monotony, players need.a bigger reason to play. I see cynical comments that War Within won't change anything and that it will be a few hours, then forgotten. We don't want that.any of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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