Expletive Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 If you don't know what a Skinner Box is, I'll explain it in short. It's a box. In this box is a rat, and a lever that dispenses treats. Skinner found that if the lever only dispensed treats at a random interval, the rat would pound that pound that lever as much as it could. You can read more on this Here. Personally, I would suggest some kind of event calendar, that will at least tell you when the alert will happen, if not what it will be. An example of such a thing I've seen would be Star Trek online which had a fairly convenient weekly calendar, with each 12 hour segment of events repeating itself twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 what they need to do is stop having alerts at late times or when mostly everyone is asleep freaking 5 am to get a cataylst is crazy im sorry im asleep i got things to do i can't be up at 5 in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miruzu6 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 ^ THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreUr Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yo do realise that there are several time zones, and while alert for some of us is at 5 AM for others is 6PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuzo Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yo do realise that there are several time zones, and while alert for some of us is at 5 AM for others is 6PM? your point? they keep doing this around in the AM's for NA but we get nothing in the PM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Make ? alerts happens every hour and I'll be cool. If I know the alerts happen at predictable times I can better set aside time to play and game and still feel like I'm progressing. I've found out that the moment I feel like I'm not progressing in this game all the fun just drains. I don't mind them using gimmicks to keep me playing. I do mind how impossible it is to play this on any realistic schedule. I've got things outside of Warframe to do. They could at least not punish me for that. My lifestyle demands a more predictable pattern from all this if I'm going to keep playing and feeling like I'm making progress. Eventually I'm going to need stuff from those ? alerts. Edited January 25, 2013 by Blatantfool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreUr Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Not so good data analysis as Ced23rik would do, but i think it will make my point: 16.01: 12:41 19.34 21:37 17.01 05:36 12:38 19:32 18.01 21:04 19:01 02:45 10:12 13:07 17.43 18:02 18:20 20.01 03:05 14:09 22:02 Time of alerts and dates - they are not concentraded around single time zone, rather distanced in time. And rewards are probably RNG based, so numer of ? varies. And they really can't make everyone happy - I missed few Orokin Catalysts because I was sleeping, or i was at univesity. And they can't increase drop of those things, because it would defeat purpose of microtransactions. It would be nice if other alerts would be more rewarding ie. 500 creds for alert is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Not so good data analysis as Ced23rik would do, but i think it will make my point: Time of alerts and dates - they are not concentraded around single time zone, rather distanced in time. And rewards are probably RNG based, so numer of ? varies. And they really can't make everyone happy - I missed few Orokin Catalysts because I was sleeping, or i was at univesity. And they can't increase drop of those things, because it would defeat purpose of microtransactions. It would be nice if other alerts would be more rewarding ie. 500 creds for alert is a joke. On the other hand they could make the alerts individual, truly random, maybe add some crappy rewards and make them more common. If people could actively grind alerts for catalysts, there would be a whole lot less mad going around than there is now when a bunch of people miss an alert because it happened when they couldn't get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreUr Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 On one hand adding bigger randomization would be neat. n the other, I do like this "community cooperation" in informing one aother that some "?" is going on. Also i don't think that client based alerts would be good idea - too easy to hack i'm afraid. The best option is (IMHO) making other alerts actually profitable. 500, 100 or even 2000 credits is not good - I can make the same doing boss raid, and I can get some neat BP or rare crafting materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdrake Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 What about making alerts that drop even rare materials? For example, an alert that, between rewards, lists "Neurodes" will totally be crowded by people. Obviously it shouldn't be necessary for them to happen on the planet that usually drops this material. So we would have "? alerts", "material alerts" and normal ones that should be just time fillers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 They definitely need more of a 'draw' to alerts that don't have ? in the rewards. As it is, the credit rewards aren't really any better than a regular mission, with few exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcalane Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) I have a proposal about making 'common' credit-only alerts worthwhile, give it a read! [/shamelessselfpromotion] Alert system definitely needs overhauling. As it is, it's arbitrary and annoying. I nearly missed a catalyst BP this morning, and had to stumble through the mission half-awake because god dammit I need catalysts and this system is daft. Edited January 25, 2013 by Arcalane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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