Kipipi Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Riven mods. I just wanted to pop in here and throw in my 2 cents SO FAR. I reserve the right to edit and/or add to this post if I come to any more conclusions about them in the future. HOWEVER, as it stands now, I believe there are 6 (maybe 7?) layers of RNG involved in obtaining, unlocking, and seeing if what you've got is worth a damn. 1.) RNG to get a mod. 2.) RNG to get the weapon type. 3.) RNG to get that weapons' stat types. 4.) RNG for stat values. 5.) RNG decides what challenge to unlock mod. 6.) RNG to decide the mods' polarity. 7.) RNG in the re-rolling! (with super double extra bonus exponential increasing costs! :D ) Being a programmer and a gamer, I have a very close knit relationship and views on RNG and its uses. Setting aside my biases though, I still can't help but feel defeated before I even start obtaining these mods. The amount of 'stars that have to align' to get the 'best of the best' seems insurmountable. I will continue to browse the forums to try and get more perspectives on the new update, and especially these new mods. Thanks for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kipipi said: I reserve the right to edit and/or add to this post if I come to any more conclusions about them in the future Pretty sure you don't... just saying. Also, you missed one layer, how many stats types there are. Some Riven mods have 2 stats, some have 3 positives and 1 negative etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xekrin Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kipipi said: The amount of 'stars that have to align' to get the 'best of the best' seems insurmountable. Starting from scratch and trying to roll the perfect combo of weapon/stats yeah it seems pretty bad, but I've seen a number of incredibly useful results here and in-game to know that probably easier to just wait for the perfect mod to fall into your lap than attempt to roll it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipipi Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: Pretty sure you don't... just saying. Also, you missed one layer, how many stats types there are. Some Riven mods have 2 stats, some have 3 positives and 1 negative etc. OK? Just saw a Boltor mod: 91.7% multi shot, 49.6% mag capacity, 140.5% damage increase, -40.3% ammo maximum Boltor, V polarity, mastery 8, 18 polarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Kipipi said: OK? My point was that a mod can lock this thread, and you can't post in it any longer. None of us technically have the 'right' to post. 2 minutes ago, Kipipi said: Just saw a Boltor mod: 91.7% multi shot, 49.6% mag capacity, 140.5% damage increase, -40.3% ammo maximum Boltor, V polarity, mastery 8, 18 polarity Nice mod, but yeah, that's got 3 positives and one negative. This one that I pulled from another thread has 3 positives. So the number of stat changes is also a layer of RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clazzeh Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I'll link my post I just put up with my ideas on it for ya to look over, though I'm curious to hear about how you think these issues should be addressed? o: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipipi Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Some good ideas overall. If I were to change the way it works currently, I'd enable the locking or unlocking of a stat / polarity / gun type when re-rolling at the cost of ... Kuva, I guess? The amount doesn't matter as that can be easily hammered out... Basically, you COULD eventually work towards the mod you really want, in a roundabout way without having to solely rely on RNG and farming nearly endless Kuva to supply this endeavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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