(XBOX)dabkevinhere710 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 What is the equation to figure out my total armor and damage reduction and total damage I can receive. With arcane guardian. I believe arcane guardian is added last +60% of total armor But it could be +60% base armor. And how would I read it if I have 2 arcane guardians? Trying to figure out how I would type this into a calculator thanks tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trichouette Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Arcane guardian is based on base armor. From the wiki : [BASE ARMOR] × [ 1 + (SteelFiber) + (ArmoredAgility) + (ArcaneGuardian) ] I have no idea if the arcane stack with itself but it should... I guess... And the reduction is Net Armor 300 + Net Armor Edited January 5, 2017 by Trichouette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Praxxor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Arcanes do not multiply their own effects AFAIK. You'll only get higher a chance to proc and refresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DeejayPwny Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Praxxor said: Arcanes do not multiply their own effects AFAIK. You'll only get higher a chance to proc and refresh. for instance on this OP, 2 Arcane Trickeries would give me a 20% chance to go invisible for 20 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)dabkevinhere710 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, Trichouette said: Arcane guardian is based on base armor. From the wiki : [BASE ARMOR] × [ 1 + (SteelFiber) + (ArmoredAgility) + (ArcaneGuardian) ] I have no idea if the arcane stack with itself but it should... I guess... And the reduction is Net Armor 300 + Net Armor Thanks so much man. I know I saw it in the wiki before but couldn't find it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Praxxor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, DeejayPwny said: for instance on this OP, 2 Arcane Trickeries would give me a 20% chance to go invisible for 20 secs. No no, you can't simply add the chances, it's going to be very near to 20%, but a bit less. I'm too lazy to calculate it though :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)dabkevinhere710 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Praxxor said: No no, you can't simply add the chances, it's going to be very near to 20%, but a bit less. I'm too lazy to calculate it though :P. Ya they are 10% EA I believe. So all it would just be 2 chances with 10% ea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trichouette Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, Praxxor said: Arcanes do not multiply their own effects AFAIK. You'll only get higher a chance to proc and refresh. 17 minutes ago, DeejayPwny said: for instance on this OP, 2 Arcane Trickeries would give me a 20% chance to go invisible for 20 secs. Some arcanes have their bonus stackable, like the one that grant flat crit chance. I think someone calculated 17-18% for 2 trickery to proc. But I think guardian can stack on itself, both arcanes have a different chance of being proc and their effect are separated. It's just that trickery stacking wouldn't make sense... you can't be "more invisible than invisible" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)dabkevinhere710 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Trichouette said: Some arcanes have their bonus stackable, like the one that grant flat crit chance. I think someone calculated 17-18% for 2 trickery to proc. But I think guardian can stack on itself, both arcanes have a different chance of being proc and their effect are separated. It's just that trickery stacking wouldn't make sense... you can't be "more invisible than invisible" :D Kinda reandom when you said you can't be more invisible then invisible made me think of something idk why but I thought I would share. New passive for Loki or ivara or ash. If invisible from outside source other then abilities, allies go invisible also. So if you run a shade or trickery on them other players will go invisible. But there's also a lens that makes you go invisible naromon I believe that would kinda be overpowered maybe idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trichouette Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, (Xbox One)dabkevinhere710 said: Kinda reandom when you said you can't be more invisible then invisible made me think of something idk why but I thought I would share. New passive for Loki or ivara or ash. If invisible from outside source other then abilities, allies go invisible also. So if you run a shade or trickery on them other players will go invisible. But there's also a lens that makes you go invisible naromon I believe that would kinda be overpowered maybe idk that would be completely overpowered... and out of the thread's subject :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kylo. Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Praxxor said: No no, you can't simply add the chances, it's going to be very near to 20%, but a bit less. I'm too lazy to calculate it though :P. 1-(0.9)^2 = 0.19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Praxxor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, KYLoooo said: 1-(0.9)^2 = 0.19? I haven't practiced probability for a while, but does that number include the chance of both arcanes proccing at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Inarticulate Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Praxxor said: I haven't practiced probability for a while, but does that number include the chance of both arcanes proccing at the same time? Yes. [1 - (1 - x) ^ n] is the formula for at least one occurrence at x probability per occurrence and n attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Praxxor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Inarticulate said: Yes. [1 - (1 - x) ^ n] is the formula for at least one occurrence at x probability per occurrence and n attempts. Thank you very much, I really need to take a look at my old math materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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What is the equation to figure out my total armor and damage reduction and total damage I can receive. With arcane guardian.
I believe arcane guardian is added last +60% of total armor
But it could be +60% base armor.
And how would I read it if I have 2 arcane guardians?
Trying to figure out how I would type this into a calculator thanks tenno
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