(PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Tried many times in different missions , only gained 150 over shield , why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)auwsomestgamer Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: Tried many times in different missions , only gained 150 over shield , why Were they against the corpus? Edited March 8, 2017 by (PS4)auwsomestgamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: Tried many times in different missions , only gained 150 over shield , why 150 cap? Need more information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 How does that augment works??? Do I need put a maxed redirection on and get more extra overshield gain? It didn't work in all missions , only 150 shields gain each time I use the ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: 150 cap? Need more information... Hrm ... that is really weird. Could it be an odd interaction with the Taxon Sentinel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CherryPauper Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 what is your power strength? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: How does that augment works??? Do I need put a maxed redirection on and get more extra overshield gain? It didn't work in all missions , only 150 shields gain each time I use the ability NotesEdit The amount of Overshield created in a single cast of Shield Polarize is based off the sum total amount of shields removed from all affected enemies. As with standard overshields, Shield Transference can only create up to 1,200 overshield points. Unaffected by Nullifier Crewman fields. Even if no enemies are drained of shields, Mag can still gain Overshields if her shields are full or close to full. The amount of Overshields created by default is just plain number instead of percents (e.g. 15 at min rank, 50 at max) and additionally modified by Power Strength. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Transference It may be a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 taiiat Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 are you fighting Enemies that don't have Shields? because then Shield Transference basically doesn't work at all. almost useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: How does that augment works??? Do I need put a maxed redirection on and get more extra overshield gain? It didn't work in all missions , only 150 shields gain each time I use the ability @MagPrime Explained it fairly well. Essentially, once your energy is maxed, you'll gain Overshields when using Energy Vampire. Now, my only question is, do you have a Decaying Dragon Key equipped? Edited March 8, 2017 by (XB1)Graysmog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kaliazane Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 If it's against grineer then that sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, ViS4GE said: If it's against grineer then that sounds about right. Only 150shield each time ?? It's not worth using it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CherryPauper Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, ViS4GE said: If it's against grineer then that sounds about right. This. OP should test on Corpus enemies and then report back because the ability is meant for enemies with shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Graysmog said: @MagPrime Explained it fairly well. Essentially, once your energy is maxed, you'll gain Overshields when using Energy Vampire. Now, my only question is, do you have a Dragon Key equipped? Energy Vampire? That's not in Mag's kit. Unless I really missed something? 2 minutes ago, ViS4GE said: If it's against grineer then that sounds about right. You can still gain the 1,200 overshields, you just have to be persistent and spam Polarize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Shield Transference only works for against corpus ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Energy Vampire? That's not in Mag's kit. Unless I really missed something? You can still gain the 1,200 overshields, you just have to be persistent and spam Polarize. Spam few times for 1200 shield ? That's big difference with volt 4 th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MagPrime said: Energy Vampire? That's not in Mag's kit. Unless I really missed something? You can still gain the 1,200 overshields, you just have to be persistent and spam Polarize. Ahh that's why, I figured it was Trinity. I always mix up the names of their shield-based abilities. Whoopsiedoodles, haha. Edited March 8, 2017 by (XB1)Graysmog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: Spam few times for 1200 shield ? That's big difference with volt 4 th That's because Volt's 4th augment works based on the damage the ability deals, not on how much Armor is removed or how much Shields are removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: Shield Transference only works for against corpus ??? 9 minutes ago, MagPrime said: NotesEdit The amount of Overshield created in a single cast of Shield Polarize is based off the sum total amount of shields removed from all affected enemies. As with standard overshields, Shield Transference can only create up to 1,200 overshield points. Unaffected by Nullifier Crewman fields. Even if no enemies are drained of shields, Mag can still gain Overshields if her shields are full or close to full. The amount of Overshields created by default is just plain number instead of percents (e.g. 15 at min rank, 50 at max) and additionally modified by Power Strength. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Transference It may be a bug. Just now, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: Spam few times for 1200 shield ? That's big difference with volt 4 th If you spam Polarize in a Grineer or Infested mission, you'll gain 50 Overshields per cast of Polarize. Check my quote above, you still gain overshields even if there are no shielded enemies around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, MagPrime said: If you spam Polarize in a Grineer or Infested mission, you'll gain 50 Overshields per cast of Polarize. Check my quote above, you still gain overshields even if there are no shielded enemies around. But only 50? Should I just give up using that augment? It's just useless if only 50 shield extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: But only 50? Should I just give up using that augment? It's just useless if only 50 shield extra Only 50 per cast on unshielded enemies, yes. If you're around Corpus or Corrupted, you can get the full 1,200 in almost one cast. Please read the wiki link I provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Only 50 per cast on unshielded enemies, yes. If you're around Corpus or Corrupted, you can get the full 1,200 in almost one cast. Please read the wiki link I provided. Truth be told, that's kind of lame when Trinity can do the exact same thing on any faction with her respective Augment. Not to dis Mag or anything, yet that seems a little unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, (Xbox One)Graysmog said: Truth be told, that's kind of lame when Trinity can do the exact same thing on any faction with her respective Augment. Not to dis Mag or anything, yet that seems a little unfair. Eh. I have tab A for shielded runs and tab B for unshielded. (Grineer and Infested get Fracturing Crush instead of Shield Transference) But, I can see how the augment would be a disadvantage for a casual/light Mag player. But honestly, if you're going up against the only two unshielded factions in the game, you don't want more shields, you want more health and CC. Infested can bypass shields and Grineer do insane slash, so really, you don't want to be using that specific augment unless you're against the Corpus or Corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Eh. I have tab A for shielded runs and tab B for unshielded. (Grineer and Infested get Fracturing Crush instead of Shield Transference) But, I can see how the augment would be a disadvantage for a casual/light Mag player. But honestly, if you're going up against the only two unshielded factions in the game, you don't want more shields, you want more health and CC. Infested can bypass shields and Grineer do insane slash, so really, you don't want to be using that specific augment unless you're against the Corpus or Corrupted. So should I swap maxed redirection to the augment ?? Because with maxed redirection I got 1000 + shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MagPrime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)ARIES-WY said: So should I swap maxed redirection to the augment ?? Because with maxed redirection I got 1000 + shield I get a total of 2,310 shields when I use a maxed Redirection and Shield Transference. However, if you're going against Corpus or Corrupted, I'd keep the augment and Redirection. What's the rest of your build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ARIES-WY Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 P flow , p cond , streamline so on haven't really build her yet . Should I focus on her power and duration ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, MagPrime said: Eh. I have tab A for shielded runs and tab B for unshielded. (Grineer and Infested get Fracturing Crush instead of Shield Transference) But, I can see how the augment would be a disadvantage for a casual/light Mag player. But honestly, if you're going up against the only two unshielded factions in the game, you don't want more shields, you want more health and CC. Infested can bypass shields and Grineer do insane slash, so really, you don't want to be using that specific augment unless you're against the Corpus or Corrupted. Very true, yet to be honest, the only time Shields (and especially Overshields) are useful is when flat-out Damage Reduction is applied to your Warframe, as they then act like extra Health (kind of). Yet still, even with that, due to Health having percentage damage reduction thanks to Armor, it's still a far better thing to fall back on. I guess I understand why they gave the Augment to Mag, but honestly, it doesn't do anything for her right now when she has no way to buff up her Shields with DR, unlike say Trinity or Mesa. Especially since it works off Shields way more than Armor, horribly limiting its overall usefulness, unlike most Augments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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