Ash Is Now Even More Powerfull In Pvp

[-10no-GCoda]

This is really OP, now even more OP, i am sorry, for bad explaining, i am sleepy and my english is bad, just ban damn ash from pvp

 

No strategy, no skill, just bladestorm and fleeting, and Attica with explosive arrows... really cheap wins

Full video

 

* I edited this post, it was some rage, DE finaly got to Ash in PvP and i posted bunch of word about it. i am still noob in English, i hope video will do the trick. 

doing a lot more damage, not  stuck on specters for 10 strikes

killing enemies without bleedout time, op for defence

 

i like it even more, i mean, he is OP but and should be banned, but he now a lot more easy to use.

Edited September 11, 2014 by GCoda

[vaugahn]

How? Elaborate?

[cyril1204]

Elaborate maybe?

[-10no-GCoda]

insta kills with .5 insteead of .1 multiplyer

[cyril1204]

Did you test it out during a conflict? Someone insta-killed you with bladestorm?

[Shuuro]

Reduced the number of times he attacks from 15 to 5.

 

Increased from .1 to .5

 

Where's the problem again?

[-10no-GCoda]

Did you test it out during a conflict? Someone insta-killed you with bladestorm?

 

i tested it now, 3 win in a row, just bladestorm with fleeting.

its much easier to kill rhino with skin now

[-10no-GCoda]

Reduced the number of times he attacks from 15 to 5.

 

Increased from .1 to .5

 

Where's the problem again?

 

0.1 was enought.

and previously you were stuck on same target for a long time, now you can kill more stuff, faster

[Acos]

I don't really PVP, but given the information presented to me: 

0.1 * 15 = 1.5

 

0.5 * 5 = 2.5 

 

2.5/1.5 = 1.666~

 

Ash is basically doing 66.6% more damage and takes less time to do it. 

[cyril1204]

i tested it now, 3 win in a row, just bladestorm with fleeting.

its much easier to kill rhino with skin now

I thought that change was meant for conflict missions only. About time they need to test the frame power change thoroughly before releasing it 

[Shuuro]

I don't really PVP, but given the information presented to me: 

0.1 * 15 = 1.5

 

0.5 * 5 = 2.5 

 

2.5/1.5 = 1.666~

 

Ash is basically doing 66.6% more damage and takes less time to do it. 

 

But wouldn't a lot of that damage be displaced now on enemies that would have needed less damage to die?

[-10no-GCoda]

But wouldn't a lot of that damage be displaced now on enemies that would have needed less damage to die?

 

even 100 damage with bleed proc is enought, even 100 damage is pretty ok, just added a video, full "game" will be added soon, if any one want to see it

[Khawz]

PvP balance is a mess anyway, and people will always abuse the most op thing, no point in banning/nerf Ash from conflicts, there's a lot of imba stuff besides Ash.

[-10no-GCoda]

PvP balance is a mess anyway, and people will always abuse the most op thing, no point in banning/nerf Ash from conflicts, there's a lot of imba stuff besides Ash.

 

For now ash just wins, with no chance for a win for oother team, team with more ashes wins, this is cheap and easy wins.

 

Just a little delay for his bladestorm, so target will know about attack in a second and make him mortal during teleports, immune to stuns and add some armor, becouse now i can just press 4, and there is no way you can stop me XD

[Shuuro]

For now ash just wins, with no chance for a win for oother team, team with more ashes wins, this is cheap and easy wins.

 

Just a little delay for his bladestorm, so target will know about attack in a second and make him mortal during teleports, immune to stuns and add some armor, becouse now i can just press 4, and there is no way you can stop me XD

 

Here's an idea.

 

Get rid of Ults in pvp since they're all meant to instantly change the tide in PvE and were in no way designed and meant for pvp.

 

In fact, this goes for almost all Tenno powers, if not all.

 

 

Edit: Btw your Ash nearly looks identical to mine. Minus one black and no armor. Hah!

Edited September 11, 2014 by Shuuro

[-10no-GCoda]

Here's an idea.

 

Get rid of Ults in pvp since they're all meant to instantly change the tide in PvE and were in no way designed and meant for pvp.

 

Good idea.

 

I would be ok with even first skills, they are usually simple, and later they can balance second skills, and after few months maybe other skills will be added too )

 

Slash dash and Soul punch vs Pull and Ripline looks like most of them already balanced.

[Lunamaniac]

STEP 1: Zap Ash with radiation proc

 

STEP 2: Run away to a safe distance

 

STEP 3:  Watch Ash destroy his own team

[Archistopheles]

From what I've seen, Doors win. Ash just is able to take advantage of doors the best.

[Dasmir]

Who play pvp anyway ?

[Archistopheles]

Who play pvp anyway ?

V, Ice, and Lords of the East.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

My Ash will be done in like 19 hours :3

[RIOT]

implying other warframes arn't OP with a fleeting experience build.

[RoboDoge]

That Ash is super edgy.

[Dasmir]

V, Ice, and Lords of the East.

 

i thought tha was just credit farm.

[RoboDoge]

My Ash will be done in like 19 hours :3

Its crappy frame out of PvP. And probably will be nerfed into oblivion because people are exploiting him in PvP.