Surtur Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I, and I am sure there are others, am a flamethrower fanatic. I really love them. Currently, the only one in the game is the ignis. To say the least, it is weak To go into detail It has low damage, low status chance being based on status per second, has a very limited range, and doesn't force a fire proc. Advantages it has are being an elemental weapon, cone of effect, infinite punch through within that cone, and being a f****** flamethrower. What I am about to say will sound a bit greedy because it is a bit greedy, but I would like to see either a new flamethrower (maybe use the ignis as a prerequisite), a buff to the ignis, or an ignis syndicate mod. Off topic things would be a change in model to the ignis (a unique model that isn't grakta), maybe a bigger model that is similar to real life with the gas packs on the back or something. Also, veil flamethrower or veil syndicate mod. Long live flamethrowers Let's burn the world together Hail the veil Metal lover Sleep deprived Surtur Edited March 29, 2015 by Surtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABAL Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 There are, in fact, four flamethrowers in this game.Two of them are warframes.One is Ignis.The second one is the unobtainable napalm modification of Ogris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_of_Grey Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Napalms use a modified old-style torrid. You'll notice it still uses the old Ogris model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Ignis need 150 damage back first before they release another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Embolist is also a "flamethrower", it fires a "gas cloud" that deals damage in the area. If we get another "flamethrower" I hope it isn't just another generic one like Ignis, I want to see fun ideas, like Embolist, but... more functional lol Also, is the Napalm using a flamethrower or is he just shooting firebombs? Edited March 29, 2015 by DarkTails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Embolist is also a "flamethrower", it fires a "gas cloud" that deals damage in the area. If we get another "flamethrower" I hope it isn't just another generic one like Ignis, I want to see fun ideas, like Embolist, but... more functional lol Also, is the Napalm using a flamethrower or is he just shooting firebombs? He shoots napalm projectiles / rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceramic Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Limited range? LOLWut? Are we talking about the same Ignis? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=284442172 That's before I got the rifle range mod, the name of which escapes me. I want to say Primed Reach, but I know that's the melee one. Don't get me wrong, I love the Ignis, and it definitely needs some love. I recently sold mine to free up a weapon slot for a Synapse. But range isn't it's problem. It IS a flamethrower. NOT a sniper rifle. Or rocket launcher. It needs more damage. Or better ammo efficiency. Or something. But not more range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABAL Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Ignis having quite a long range is not absurd at all. You see, even WWII German Flammenwerfer is capable of projecting flaming liquid up to 25m forward.What I don't like about flamethrowers is that I'm never sure whether it reaches its target or just wastes fuel. Edited March 29, 2015 by LABAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Limited range? LOLWut? Are we talking about the same Ignis? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=284442172 That's before I got the rifle range mod, the name of which escapes me. I want to say Primed Reach, but I know that's the melee one. Don't get me wrong, I love the Ignis, and it definitely needs some love. I recently sold mine to free up a weapon slot for a Synapse. But range isn't it's problem. It IS a flamethrower. NOT a sniper rifle. Or rocket launcher. It needs more damage. Or better ammo efficiency. Or something. But not more range. I am not saying it needs more range. I believe the range is good. My point is how weak it is for it's limited range, and that ignis needs a buff. Also, that a new flamethrower would be appreciated. Embolist is also a "flamethrower", it fires a "gas cloud" that deals damage in the area. If we get another "flamethrower" I hope it isn't just another generic one like Ignis, I want to see fun ideas, like Embolist, but... more functional lol Also, is the Napalm using a flamethrower or is he just shooting firebombs? You could classify them as the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I love the embolist and Red Veil made me pick it up again. I just want to see the ignis, and maybe even the embolist to some degree, buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Blocks_007 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Limited range? LOLWut? Are we talking about the same Ignis? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=284442172 That's before I got the rifle range mod, the name of which escapes me. I want to say Primed Reach, but I know that's the melee one. Don't get me wrong, I love the Ignis, and it definitely needs some love. I recently sold mine to free up a weapon slot for a Synapse. But range isn't it's problem. It IS a flamethrower. NOT a sniper rifle. Or rocket launcher. It needs more damage. Or better ammo efficiency. Or something. But not more range. The mod name, I daresay, is Sinister Reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 This is what I mean. The ignis should look more like this I think. The ogris and torid got remodels so that they weren't boxes. Why not the ignis too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SteampunkJester Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 100% agree. IMO the flamethrower should proc 100% of the time but the status % would instead be the chance in which it would cause that panic animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexRgisIocus Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Ignis should have focused fire like Phage. Conical fire for crowds and focused fire for single target. Increase status chance to 20% while also setting enemies on fire (no panic effect) regardless of mod combinations like Acrid and Castanas. Increase base damage to 30 while unfocused and 50 while focused. Increase reload time to 2.8 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruglov Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 What I am about to say will sound a bit greedy because it is a bit greedy, but I would like to see either a new flamethrower (maybe use the ignis as a prerequisite), a buff to the ignis, or an ignis syndicate mod. Off topic things would be a change in model to the ignis (a unique model that isn't grakta), maybe a bigger model that is similar to real life with the gas packs on the back or something. Also, veil flamethrower or veil syndicate mod. All the forum crybabies would whine about "wah i have to have a weapon to make another weapon wah" but I think it'd be hilarious if we could combine an ignis and some materials or an ignis and another ignis into some sort of huge super-flamethrower. One with a proper fuel tank strapped to our Tenno somewhere and better stats. I'd love a flamethrower that can go toe to toe with the Amprex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Require Ignis + Ogris to create a firebomb launcher like Napalms have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbot34 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Actually, you are wrong. The ignis hits unlimited enemies in it's range. This means against more and more enemies, the ignis is far superior than any other weapon due to it spreading damage (albeit average) across every single enemy, versus alot of damage on a single enemy. We need a new tenno flamethrower in the game that focuses more on liquid propellent, to let us have a thinner, longer range stream of fire that has a very high status chance. or, at least for now, let us have the Napalm's weapon once it gets a new remodel I use the ignis all the time, it's just fine for medium tier content. Edit: or actually a chemical thrower would make more sense, since we will be shooting ice, radiation, electricity, etc. as well as fire. Edited March 30, 2015 by superbot34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbot34 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Require Ignis + Ogris to create a firebomb launcher like Napalms have. no please don't give DE any more S#&$ty ideas with combo weapons like that, until DE lets us save weapons outside of our inventory that we can only use for building purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Require Ignis + Embolist to create a weapon that spews fuel with alt fire and ignites the fuel with Secondary, badass. Let's do it DE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Let us burn the world. Sorry for bringing it back, but I want the world to burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Burn it!!! Burn it to the ground!!! Then burn the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhiss Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Yea thats definitely no more than 10% chance to set things on fire, DE got it right /sarcasm Edited April 8, 2015 by Rhiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Embolist is also a "flamethrower", it fires a "gas cloud" that deals damage in the area. It's not a flamethrower. Because it doesn't throw flame. It sprays gas. Ignis needs a buff. It should really just have very high status chance and some extra damage to make it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) It's not a flamethrower. Because it doesn't throw flame. It sprays gas. Talk about weapons in terms of archetypes, let's not have super specific pedantic discussions. Embolist and Ignis work the same in this game, they release a plume of damage. They're both "flamethrowers". Edited April 8, 2015 by DarkTails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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