taiiat Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) But you failed to keep it civil. text doesn't transfer very much emotion. which is perfect, because the words i write is exactly what i mean to say. no further meaning. anyways, Warframe overall does a... not that great job of explaining it's numbers. it's not your fault, almost never really is, the game is just always extremely vague about it's numbers. and the Damage is plenty sufficient because of the facets other than Damage that it has. and you're comparing Redeemer to some Weapons which are incredibly Overpowered. maybe in 10 years u ill pull out that charge attack xD the Attack Speed Multiplier does very little for Redeemer's Charge Attack. it still takes about the same amount of time to do it. the difference between Spoiled Strike and Spoiled Strike + Fury is not that huge. still, i'd prefer to use Fury alone myself, as the Damage is certainly sufficient with it's other facets. and since there's no Ammo, i have no qualms about 'just shoot again'. even so, the difference between Spoiled Strike alone and Fury alone is... i'm not even sure it's a full second, probably 500ms. Animations will go faster, but the 'Charge' and 'Reload' both take the same amount of time either way. Edited October 12, 2015 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Dante---- Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 the Attack Speed Multiplier does very little for Redeemer's Charge Attack. it still takes about the same amount of time to do it. the difference between Spoiled Strike and Spoiled Strike + Fury is not that huge. still, i'd prefer to use Fury alone myself, as the Damage is certainly sufficient with it's other facets. and since there's no Ammo, i have no qualms about 'just shoot again'. even so, the difference between Spoiled Strike alone and Fury alone is... i'm not even sure it's a full second, probably 500ms. Animations will go faster, but the 'Charge' and 'Reload' both take the same amount of time either way. it actualy does alot the amount of time u charge i affected by atk speed and there is also 1 quick attack b4 you start even charging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kainosh Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I dont mind it to be powerfull. But shots shouldnt be free. Should consume energy. Redeemer shot is like channeled glaive explosion. Even stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 it actualy does alot i literally double checked what i said less than 30 seconds prior to writing it down. it's not a huge difference. there is one, most definitely. but you'll be fine regardless of which end of the scale you're on. between Spoiled Strike alone and Fury alone, from when you press(hold, w/e) the Melee button to when your Warframe finishes the Reloading, is ~3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattledOne Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Wait you treat 10k as notable damage? Isn't redeemer supposed to be a shotgun-blade? 10k with a very long downtime between shots is laughable tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Dante---- Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Wait you treat 10k as notable damage? Isn't redeemer supposed to be a shotgun-blade? 10k with a very long downtime between shots is laughable tbh. it kinda is,well redeemer needs a buff but we also need more type of gunblades Edited October 12, 2015 by Dante123pl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Wait you treat 10k as notable damage? Isn't redeemer supposed to be a shotgun-blade? 10k with a very long downtime between shots is laughable tbh. In a game that isn't as #*($%%@ up as this one is numbers-wise, yes, it is. It's certainly enough for regular content. It may not measure up in infinite content epeen contests, but that is completely irrelevant to weapon balance. Edited October 13, 2015 by RealPandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomder Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Several shotguns are not fine though, as they were nerfed with the review of the weapon type. Those should be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deejudanne Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Vaykor redeemer incomming along with telos galatine? KreyGasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziegrif Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Ain't 10k kinda low for dmg? *Says the guy noob toobing most missions.* I do love the redeemer as it's unique but I don't feel convinced enough to pour resources into it. Edited October 13, 2015 by Ziegrif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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