aMsRaDau Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 This should not be a flame thread. If you don´t accept my point of view on this, stop reading now! So... several weeks ago someone had said that meeting the Stalker after killing a boss was a kind of a bug. But why do you release a package which includes all 3 Stalker weapons + his colors when it was just a "bug" that you have "fixed". I don´t think that this was a bug. It was an easy way to meet the stalker -> okay not even easy, it depended on luck still. So now this "bug" got fixed and i haven´t met the Stalker the past 5 weeks. When the "bug" wasn´t fixed, i didn´t notice that he appears more often when you have killed a boss. So it happened that i met him like 3 times in 2 weeks. 2 times i died, because he is still powerfull and i have been kinda noob to this game. The 3rd time i have been playing with my brother and we killed him and i was really really glad about dropping the Dread Blueprint. But now i don´t meet him again. Is this the way to make money? The reason why i have decided to play Warframe is dying by every update :/ I´m sorry for the ppl who work all day long for updates, but i don´t accept this. First you say it´s a bug and then you release a package for real money... pay2win no way... Just unlucky that i never met him again. Should be no flame, it´s just a fact that i have noticed when trying to meet the Stalker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottFaust Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Wrong subforum. This one is meant for Warframe feedback, as in feedback on individual Warframes like Nova, Mag, or Rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCrusnik Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Someone lied to you, this isn't P2W, it's more like pay to get stuff faster, I fought the stalker a couple days ago, and the Stalker isn't a bug, he's an assassin looking for revenge in the name of the people you killed. You shouldn't believe everything people say. Edited September 12, 2013 by AXCrusnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You shouldn't believe everything people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrex Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 just go kill some bosses and he will spawn for you(try to kill krill phorid or golem feels like he will spawn most likely when you killed one of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubmix Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Buing things only speeds up the game exprience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Sokol Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Stalker appears for me at least once a week if not twice a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It took me a month to gather all of his weapons. Difficult? Maybe. Impossible? No. Pay for convenience? Yes. Pay to win? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farren Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The Stalker is an intended rarely encountered enemy that appears randomly in non Assassination missions to try and kill you, and if you win you have a chance at the bps for one of his weapons. Now please learn to detect running gags.and save yourself the embarrasment. Just as well this game is Pay For Convenience: Earn everything by working for it with the option to throw money at the screen to speed the process up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 another one of these threads.... joy. warframe is not p2w. stalker drops are not, nor have they ever been a bug. your being lied to. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaaz Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 If the item is obtainable in game (which it is) your pay to win theory goes out the window. I see the stalker all the time. Anyone spending money on that pack would be foolish, not a pay to win scenario. I see this thread as more of a whine because you can't get the weapons and you want them. Do like everyone else has done in the past. Keep playing until you have them. I still only have Dread but I will keep killing him every time I see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahooo Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I stopped reading when you told me to because I was pretty sure I would disagree with your point of view. But since I stopped reading before I got to it I really won't know. LOL pay2win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroMidgets Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 They are not selling power. They are selling a weapon that can be had in game. At best they are selling you the convenience of not having to grind out missions to get the weapon. I agree that there begins to be a large grey area when it comes to such things as convenience often ends up being more advantageous then the developer would like to admit. I have the weapons but I opted to grind out the missions and Stalker attacks to get them. I had the platinum to buy them but I was saving the plat that I had for whatever the next frame to come out was as I found it takes longer to get the frames then the weapons. It all comes down to perspective. As long as the game is available in game from actually playing the game I don't see it as P2W. Games like Firefall take the convenience thing to idiotic extremes and they set a piss poor example of paying for convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeelSouls Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) I met the stalker 4 times in one day recently I don't have a clue, what you have been doing? And he dropped the Hate and Dread it seems like every other kill he drops something because I ran into him again a few days later and got the Dread a second time after him not dropping anything the last of the 4 encounters in the one day. Edited September 12, 2013 by JustTotallyEpic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inberun Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Don't use the word "P2W" if u dont know wat it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxLawliet Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Doesn't Pay 2 Win imply, well, that you WIN? That you have a clear advantage over everyone else? Because I fail to see such advantages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangUrDeadTC Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 i do not see this game as pay to win and putting a few bucks in time to time is called supporting the game and its staff you know the "people who work all day long for updates" the people that work all day letting us have a fun game to play for FREE they work hard and well if by me putting a few bucks in can help get them a beer or a nice dinner at the end of the week then why the hell not LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It's already clear that OP is misinformed nub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeteorKing Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 6 posts, complaining about p2w, and believing what trolls say. Real strong argument you've got going for you, there, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDirtTrooper Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The stalker pack is actually a lol idiot test. It's only there so that anyone who admits to buying it can be made fun of forever for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estred Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 This game is "pay for speed" everything can be obtained for free. The Stalker Pack is very expensive for what it offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syle Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Buing things only speeds up the game exprience... well I call bullS#&$ sicne there is no way to get weapon and warframe slots other than to buy them and collecting them is the true endgame atm (or rather only gameplay once you unlock all planets the only thing left to do is get all weapons and all frames and lvl them up) there should be an expensive way to do it with credits+materials Edited September 12, 2013 by syle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetSlaanesh Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It's a co-op game. So it's not that big of a deal if it were true. It's not though. Warframe probably has the most decent pay model of any F2P game out there. The only things you can't get in-game are frame/weapon slots, and color palettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeteorKing Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 well I call bullS#&$ sicne there is no way to get weapon and warframe slots other than to buy them and collecting them is the true endgame atm (or rather only gameplay once you unlock all planets the only thing left to do is get all weapons and all frames and lvl them up) there should be an expensive way to do it with credits+materials 75 plat. Having access to a larger arsenal at any given time is not p2w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r3dzer0 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 having slots for frames and weapons is not necessary, its a convenience. By no means are you required to play with more than one warframe with only one weapon loadout. if you enjoy the game and the different warframes however, you can easily spend 5 dollars to unlock a lot of slots and have more frames/weapons. Pay to win is only existent in this game if there are enemies that cannot be defeated by weapons gained in game, or having special aids in events to boost your ranking quicker than other players that grind it out. Warframe is a true f2p with the ability to pay your way to reach the end quicker, not be better than your opponents. One good example of a pay to win model is Bloodbrothers by DeNa studios in conjunction with mobage games. warframe is not even remotely close to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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