TheFoxing Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) okay so... yeah. lots of changes.... "need a practical test to see the changes" not really. i've been a top 50 WoW raider, with rank 1's in dps/healing, and a very good theorycrafter for a very long time until i "retired" and often times was more accurate than any simcraft build. Shields. very strong change for most frames. dragonkey negative shields to basically always have shield gate up like a hildryn but a LOT more reliable, and 0 investment to shields. Hildryn nerf.... a lot... please, please, please... change her passive to something along the lines of "bonus health transfers to shields, and benefits from armor" she becomes almost entirely useless after this patch if nothing changes, and a 25% reduction is entirely meaningless for shields as at 90% adaptation you can still get 1 shot for your entire shield as it doesn't benefit from armor. New Arcanes. 5 rank for many of the arcanes is actually really really really nice i won't lie... but if arcane grace, energize, rage, avenger are in those rank 5's.... nothing changes besides hildryn using a rank 5 toxin with rank 5 barrier. Self Damage. RIP chroma. i actually have no issues with chroma being reduced in this psuedo nerf as it only makes him not flatly "the best" frame and you'll actually need to take time to build stuff up... however... pretty much impossible to get vex armor damage increase now on lower end things. please change "cautious shot" to exilus and "50% less stagger" and for the love of sweet lotus.... allow knockdown resistance/recovery to work with this or it's going to be the absolute worst with playing a "fast paced" game and being stunned half the time. The whole "stagger" system is kinda just as bad as self damage suicide... it severely nerfs any output you could do with them on warframes you had synergy with and could survive the self damage. now it's just total dog poop to use these weapons as their power has been crippled (in my opinion). Edited February 29, 2020 by TheFoxing clarification on "top 50".. don't matter too much just some people will question your medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8faiNt Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I want to know the cooldown and the duration time on arcane energize and others. If the duration and the cooldown is too long, it might even be a huge nerf tbh. I also find the cooldown very stupid as it makes literally no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Oh a claim of authority first and foremost 🙄. As if there weren't topics on all three already or the cast itself right below this topic that already brought up these concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Firetempest said: Oh a claim of authority first and foremost 🙄. As if there weren't topics on all three already or the cast itself right below this topic that already brought up these concerns. Aye you Shutup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Now this was a good gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8faiNt Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, kevoisvevo said: Now this was a good gif secretly supporting child beating? huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, 8faiNt said: secretly supporting child beating? huh. wow you must be very very smart infact psychic huh. will you start to think for others too? can you do my taxes too pls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8faiNt Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, kevoisvevo said: can you do my taxes too pls? american way? no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, 8faiNt said: secretly supporting child beating? huh. You too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8faiNt Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, (PS4)sweatshawp said: You too Edited February 29, 2020 by 8faiNt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFoxing Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 y'all slapping each other and i'm just here like "grace/energize have already gone down 200-300 platinum" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, TheFoxing said: y'all slapping each other and i'm just here like "grace/energize have already gone down 200-300 platinum" If you have zenurick you don't need energize. But that's just my personal op. As I don't find any value in either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFoxing Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 18 hours ago, (PS4)sweatshawp said: If you have zenurick you don't need energize. But that's just my personal op. As I don't find any value in either for sure. i never use energize as getting energy drops just not reliable unless you're using a frame that does that and then it's mostly a support role. it is however... still a massive nerf to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, TheFoxing said: for sure. i never use energize as getting energy drops just not reliable unless you're using a frame that does that and then it's mostly a support role. it is however... still a massive nerf to them. Yes and no. No to stacking arcanes but again a buff to arcanes.yes trash teir is trash teir but mid and great arcanes can be ran together and adding more diversity in builds so an overall nerf? Kinda but in viability and usability plus accessibility a buff yes. Still can't imagine them not fixing a gamemode so they remove it from the game (Lor cough cough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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