Bones76 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 DE stated that if implemented it would revert your fusion level permanently. Meaning if you had a Rare 10, and underclocked it to rare 9. You would have to gather a load more fusion cores and credits to get it back up to 10 again.... Lol, That would be total BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiel Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 This is something I have wished could be an option for a long time now. When DE said that it had potential to be implemented in the future I was so very excited. Right up until they said it would require re fusing (with the standard amount of cores/duplicates/junk and credits) to get back up to a higher level. HOW? HOOWWW?!!?! How no-one thought this? 100000% agree It has before : https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/38278-underclocking-mods-mentioned-on-livestream/?hl=underclock It got mentioned in livestream but nothing got done about it. Thank you for finding that, I remembered this idea from before and DE's take on it and was trying to find it but could not for the life of me remember what it was called. You are my hero of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EirikAura Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladereap3r Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffinLauncher Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just thought about posting the same thing, and here it is. I would really love to see this implemented. Makes no sense IMO that I gotta keep multiple copies of the same mod, if I don't always need it at max rank. It's even more the case with mods like glaive's Quick Return or Rebound - when the upgraded mod is not just plain better. It's what you try and set to your liking... Shouldn't have to fuse another mod for that. This is a much needed feature, +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyDarkling Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 *throws hat in the want pile* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennoSimons Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) I'm not going to lie: it is a great idea but I would be &!$$ed about all the credits and mods that I would have wasted fusing multiples of the same mod for various situations. I have multiple value verisons of most of my mods, and indeed, a great many mods for which i have every possible rank (e.g. a version of cryo-rounds un-leveled, plus one at level one, one at level two, etc.). Getting my bank of mods at multiple values was a huge investment for me. Huge! Much though I would appreciate not having to continue to go though with it with some of my rarer mods (blind rage, narrowminded, rage, etc.), I would be pretty sore about my wasted mod copies and all the time/credits/fusion cores, etc. that went into them. So... My basic point is that there are underlying fairness issues here. Not that fairness issues necessarily trump all other issues, or that this fairness issue couldn't be mitigated/resolved through some other mechanism (like, uh, can I get all those credits and fusion cores refunded please, Mr. Derf Anyo?) -- but the basic fairness issue is there and this should definitely carry significant weight. I don't think that it is the simple and obvious win-win that it seems many of you take it to be. Edited November 20, 2013 by Toe_ma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyria Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 This has my full support! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiel Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 <snip> My basic point is that there are underlying fairness issues here. Not that fairness issues necessarily trump all other issues, or that this fairness issue couldn't be mitigated/resolved through some other mechanism (like, uh, can I get all those credits and fusion cores refunded please, Mr. Derf Anyo?) -- but the basic fairness issue is there and this should definitely carry significant weight. I don't think that it is the simple and obvious win-win that it seems many of you take it to be. I know personally I was just disappointed that of all the possible options available to help balance this idea the one DE put forward was the one that made the execution of this idea most unappealing. At least that's how it felt like to me. Here's other ideas that offer a possible solution for making it cost something but not be quite so punishing off the top of my head: You need to build a mod tuning machine in the foundry, you can't throttle mods until you build this. Make it expensive, make it cost only rare mats to build, make it clan tech. There are lots of options with this suggestion. Have it just cost credits to raise and lower. As you yourself suggested return the credits and fusion cores used to rank the mod up when you de-level it. Have it cost resources to raise and lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dataz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) The original poster's idea is just what I've mentioned once in one of topics. Exactly here: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/118363-mod-interface-bug/page-2#entry1393924 I doubt it would be ever implemented, but would be nice to have this feature. Thumbs up for this idea! Edited November 20, 2013 by Dataz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaKicks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 My basic point is that there are underlying fairness issues here. Not that fairness issues necessarily trump all other issues, or that this fairness issue couldn't be mitigated/resolved through some other mechanism (like, uh, can I get all those credits and fusion cores refunded please, Mr. Derf Anyo?) -- but the basic fairness issue is there and this should definitely carry significant weight. I don't think that it is the simple and obvious win-win that it seems many of you take it to be. I'm actually doing the same with my mods while I wait for something like this to be added to the game. That is a risk I took. No ones choice but my own. There is no "fairness issue" here. You chose to do something, the rest of the game population should not be punished for it. (anyone who does this is what? 0.001% of the total population?) You want to punish the 99.999% the players because you _chose_ to do something knowing the game can and will evolve at any time? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCrisis Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Mods with selectable variable levels should've been in the game for a while now. And if they implement the "go back, have to lvl again" nonsense then nothing will change since the problem is mods across multiple equipment. Plus, such an option would be best just ignored considering how difficult some of the most common mods are to max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenggiling Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I just realized that I haven't Left a comment on this post yet. Silly me. I just love this idea. It's perfect. There shouldn't be a cost for rescaling Mods, the cost of leveling them in the first place is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones76 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 There shouldn't be a cost for rescaling Mods, the cost of leveling them in the first place is enough. I'll add this to my original post. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torhque Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) This idea would make putting together builds so much more convenient, but wouldn't this alter a balance in the game? I mean wouldn't this affect the cycle of mods in the game? Now I know no one likes grinding for anything, (or maybe just most people) but being able to adjust leveled mods would remove the need to collect more mods once you've collected all the mods you want. Isn't part of the fun putting together your arsenal to create some powerful or fun builds? Maybe it's just me. However, if this was implemented, I would definitely appreciate the feature haha. Edited December 4, 2013 by Torhque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaKicks Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This idea would make putting together builds so much more convenient, but wouldn't this alter a balance in the game? I mean wouldn't this affect the cycle of mods in the game? Now I know no one likes grinding for anything, (or maybe just most people) but being able to adjust leveled mods would remove the need to collect more mods once you've collected all the mods you want. Isn't part of the fun putting together your arsenal to create some powerful or fun builds? Maybe it's just me. However, if this was implemented, I would definitely appreciate the feature haha. Time played 628 hours. Mods Collected 263 / 279 I don't think we have anything to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaZerker Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Would you be able to raise it again back to the point you had it at before? (Without having to fuse it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones76 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Would you be able to raise it again back to the point you had it at before? (Without having to fuse it) That's the idea, yes. Once you've maxed out a mod, you should be able to alter its level indefinitely (i.e. up or down) Edited December 29, 2013 by Bones76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz_Darkbane Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) I would love this. It would make it much easier to make more robust builds for weapons that I haven't forma'd the crap out of yet like others. I mean after I spend all the time leveling serration or split barrel it sucks that I can't use it because it takes up so much mod points forcing me to start working on a second version of the mod. I love this idea +1 Edited December 29, 2013 by Chaz_Darkbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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