polibsielipsy Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Why if host disconect all others will lost all items, but 1 player can´t use extraction in free roam? I had many items,40-46 dioxite, 4 thyst 12 fishes and much more, I wrote them to go, tried to wait on extraction point, wait for others, (orb valis - fortuna) and nothing, after host disconected and I lost everything, 1,5 hour of searching, next 1 hour waiting for squad This wasn´t first time when I lost rare resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)haphazardlynamed Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Because the game is Shoehorning archaic Squad-based networking into Open World Public scenarios which are not as conducive to team based coordinated activities thus the conflict of players leaving as they are apt to, causing disruptive host migrations. In a Closed Objective mission, such a migration is no problem since it is only likely to occur once the shared objective is complete Open World being less organized, needs a different networking paradigm. Suggested: Dynamic P2P instead of Host based. -see Destiny2 Open Worlds for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)haphazardlynamed Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 ... But since DE doesn't have the resources to make that happen... your best bet, is to Play Solo when in Open Worlds this gives you the freedom to do as you please without being a the mercy of a Host who might leave at any time and screw you over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrethyst Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Pretty sure you can "esc>leave squad" and then extract on your own as per normal. (don't quote me on this, i've only done it in POE 2 years ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 if you open the Menu and select 'Leave Squad', you will Host Migrate to your own Session and you can then leave a Landscape anytime you wish. additionally a Host leaving won't disrupt your own Rewards unless your connection to the Host is unreliable enough that the Host Migration fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 2021-12-25 at 5:02 AM, Syrethyst said: Pretty sure you can "esc>leave squad" and then extract on your own as per normal. (don't quote me on this, i've only done it in POE 2 years ago) On 2021-12-25 at 5:16 AM, taiiat said: if you open the Menu and select 'Leave Squad', you will Host Migrate to your own Session and you can then leave a Landscape anytime you wish. additionally a Host leaving won't disrupt your own Rewards unless your connection to the Host is unreliable enough that the Host Migration fails. This.... In my case if I Initiate the Host Migration myself then I've always managed to keep my rewards so far. Infact if I ever get the sense that the group I'm in even hints at having different goals I just leave Squad immediately.... If by some unfortunate twist of fate I ended hosting a bunch of other players.... I always give them a chance to leave first.... If they don't listen then I shall force Host Migration on them.... Sorry but I never wanted to host in the first place... DE made me do it... Blame them 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Lutesque said: If by some unfortunate twist of fate I ended hosting a bunch of other players.... I always give them a chance to leave first.... If they don't listen then I shall force Host Migration on them.... my angle is that i'll stand around and wait if i want to Host Migrate a Landscape Session - it should only fail to Migrate from me if i try to leave the Landscape before their Migration is done. so i stand around for a little bit while i wait long enough to ensure that their Migration would have successfully transitioned before i try to leave myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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