ThatUmbraGuy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 hours ago, nine0fivex said: My MOD configuration (has used Aura Forma, 1 Naramon forma; has replaced Slack Dash with Eclipse): Shield Disruption (max level); Umbral Intensify（max level），Umbral Vitality（max level），Umbral Fiber（level 0），Adaptation（max level）， Blind Rage（max level），Transient Fortitude（level 9），Narrow Minded（max level）， Augur Secrets（max level）. It would cause this issue,and in this configuration, my mod capacity is "0/74". After several attempts, I could only avoid this bug if I controlled the mod capacity to "6/74" or more,like"8/74"、"10/74" (so I lowered the Rating level of Adaptation from 10 to 4 temporarily for playing). I also had eclipse on I just tried with a different helminth infused ability (just swapped my mod config) and it does not happen to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatUmbraGuy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 2022-02-12 at 11:15 PM, (PSN)Sentiel said: I don't use those and have the problem as well. My Umbra is rather simply modded for max survivability, so I can hop out with the Operator and do the mission like that. Do you have any helminth infused ability like mirage's Eclipse for me mirage's eclipse along with the rage or hunter adrenaline mod cause the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Sentiel Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, ThatUmbraGuy said: Do you have any helminth infused ability like mirage's Eclipse for me mirage's eclipse along with the rage or hunter adrenaline mod cause the issue Oh yeah, I got Gloom on him, but Umbra rarely uses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)R3d P01nt Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 19 hours ago, (XBOX)x SoloFighter x said: Crickets... DE reads these bug reports. They rarely ever reply. Just because you didn't get a personal reply doesn't mean the bug hasn't been logged. Please try to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatUmbraGuy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 hours ago, (PSN)Sentiel said: Oh yeah, I got Gloom on him, but Umbra rarely uses it. And does changing the mod config or the ability solve the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JurgeChronicles Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 It's also happening here on PS4. Most likely as well as PS5. Just putting it here for a heads up. When rejoining with Umbra, you lose health to 300hp. This thing bugged AF bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)x SoloFighter x Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 2022-02-15 at 4:29 PM, ThatUmbraGuy said: yeah I saw you guys wrote it happens from hunter adrenaline and rage mods that convert damage on health to energy Can confirm with rage or hunter adrenaline umbra goes back to base health on transference if you unequip these mods its all good I don't have these mods equipped or any subsumed abilities in any config. I have also changed mod config and loadout slots, but the issue keeps happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Sentiel Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 19 hours ago, ThatUmbraGuy said: And does changing the mod config or the ability solve the issue? I made a fresh loadout, no Helminth abilities and the only mod it had was Umbral Vitality. The problem was still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)tw33zy26 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I have the same problem as well when I transfer out of my warframe in any mission I’m always set back to 300 health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartDemonPrime Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Switch back to Excalibur umbra, and the forced HP is 600. Other armor does not have this problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartDemonPrime Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Look forward to repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menalippe Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Whenever I use transference in and out of Excalibur Umbra, when I return he only has about 1/3 of his health even if he took no damage. If I use Protective Dash, the health bar over his head refills like normal, but on transference in his health is low again. I tested several frames and the problem only seems to occur with Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracue Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Yup noticed this problem too. I have recorded a clip of this happening consistently if it helps. On top of the other umbra excal issues such as exalted blade toggling off after using operator mode it makes the gameplay less fluid than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwillym Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 He takes damage every time I transfer out, this is with all three umbra mods added and maxed; I'm also unable to heal him since AI umbra and player umbra are two separate entities (apparently) so things like protective dash and magus repair don't work on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartDemonPrime Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 After testing, this situation will occur when using Excalibur umbra to equip chrome blade and Hunter adult / rage / adaptation at the same time. The specific arrangement of modules is unknown The commander forces 600 HP when switching back to armor because magus elevation is installed. If it is not installed, the HP will be forced to 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatUmbraGuy Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 19 hours ago, Mivrodynth said: He takes damage every time I transfer out, this is with all three umbra mods added and maxed; I'm also unable to heal him since AI umbra and player umbra are two separate entities (apparently) so things like protective dash and magus repair don't work on him. It has been happening for longer than a week now for me it seems that mods like rage and hunter adrenaline that convert damage on health to energy could cause it I also had mirage's Eclipse subsumed to his 3. When I switched to config B that had different subsumed abilities everything worked. If it does not work for you (because someone said he tried everything but nothing worked) you can use life strike on your melee or exalted blade because it does not require you to exit the warframe I posted about this on 10th of February but so far it only got the attention to a couple of players from different platforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntarcticMatt Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 How to reproduce: Pick Excalibur Umbra. Mod Excalibur Umbra using MORE than 60 points (Aura required for raised point cap, any aura works) Transferrence out of frame (Default key: 5) The upper left most(Exilus first, then top row, left to right, then bottom row, left to right (Which if I had to guess is *standard order*)) mods (not including the Aura) no longer work (until only 60 points are used). Happens 100% of the time. Only tested as Host. Happens in all Mission types (Railjack included) (Captura not included). Only tested on PC. Occurs as of 31.1.6 (Edit) Occurs as of 31.1.7 (Edit) Only tested with 60 points available, At MR 31 I cannot have access to less.(Sucks for bug testing, great for gameplay) Hypothesis: As it appears to be reading the mods in reverse order(Bottom right -> Top left), it may be discard the mods over 60 points as it does not have the extra points from the Aura. The Aura being read last (Bottom right -> Top left) only provides the points AFTER the offending mods have already been discarded. The question remains why he would read mods backwards though. Side note, why is there no category for mods functioning incorrectly in the bug submit sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegalophobiaPrime2 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 same situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ancient Mutt Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 My Magus Arcanes are not healing my Excalibur Umbra. They heal my other Warframes and other players' Warframes but not my Excalibur Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMoricharXi Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2022/2/10 PM12点34分 , RadioactiveName 说: Vazarin's healing won't stay on him when you transfer back to him. Confirmed，this is annoying.This bug used to happend time to time(first seen 2 years ago) ,now it is just contant appear.Hope it can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatUmbraGuy Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2022-02-21 at 11:48 AM, AntarcticMatt said: How to reproduce: Pick Excalibur Umbra. Mod Excalibur Umbra using MORE than 60 points (Aura required for raised point cap, any aura works) Transferrence out of frame (Default key: 5) The upper left most(Exilus first, then top row, left to right, then bottom row, left to right (Which if I had to guess is *standard order*)) mods (not including the Aura) no longer work (until only 60 points are used). Happens 100% of the time. Only tested as Host. Happens in all Mission types (Railjack included) (Captura not included). Only tested on PC. Occurs as of 31.1.6 (Edit) Occurs as of 31.1.7 (Edit) Only tested with 60 points available, At MR 31 I cannot have access to less.(Sucks for bug testing, great for gameplay) Hypothesis: As it appears to be reading the mods in reverse order(Bottom right -> Top left), it may be discard the mods over 60 points as it does not have the extra points from the Aura. The Aura being read last (Bottom right -> Top left) only provides the points AFTER the offending mods have already been discarded. The question remains why he would read mods backwards though. Side note, why is there no category for mods functioning incorrectly in the bug submit sections. Thank you for this professional and straight to the point post I had almost identical builds on config A and config B same slots same mods capacity is 5/78 but the issue persisted on config A while on config B is non-existent The only difference was that I had 1 different arcane on config B I had 2 max rank arcanes on config A (arcane guardian and arcane fury) and on config B it was not fury but a rank 2 arcane rage When I replaced the rank 2 arcane rage with the arcane fury the bug started happening on config B as well which is kinda sad because I think I permanently broke my config B as well (the only config the issue was not happening on) Removing or replacing any arcanes does not resolve the issue Removing mods so the capacity drops seems the only way so far for it to not cause the bug Could the issue be caused by the arcanes or arcane fury in particular or the second arcane slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Overdrive_YT Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Yesss I thought I was going crazy but it seems an age old bug from 2018 when umbra was released I believe has came back. I’ve noticed this too and can’t make sense why when I energise dash and come back into umbra he loses a third of his health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrBoiBalyeet Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Another bug on umbra excal, I noticed is if you use the chromatic blade mod and switch your excalibur umbra skin to the excalibur dex skin. No matter the color you change your emissive to, your exalted blade will always be heat 😕 (Yes before anyone asks I was using the first color of the emissive option 🙄) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntarcticMatt Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2022-02-25 at 1:05 AM, ThatUmbraGuy said: Could the issue be caused by the arcanes or arcane fury in particular or the second arcane slot? Thank you for bringing this missed variable to my attention. Upon testing I have found that having 0, 1, or 2 Arcanes equipped does not affect the presence of the bug. Arcanes trailed with include: Guardian, Grace, Strike, and Rage. Initial results lead me to believe this is not a factor to cause the bug to appear. Perhaps I should also state, a way to mitigate the issue is to move any Health mods further right or into the bottom row; No other mods come to mind in terms of lasting effect from being unequipped due to the bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Saske Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hey Tenno! We we have a fix for this issue in the next Update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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