ethics Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I see where he is coming from though. Soma IS outta place a bit with the size of its magazine for what it does and compared to other similar weapons in the game. Basically I think the gorgon with higher damage and instead of the spin-up just a slowed down fire-rate. 4 + 5 don't really contradict each other, but I blame battlefield for making people think HMG's are supposed to be able to be used like sniper rifles. I've seen this in other game forums as well people criticizing the HMG for not being "realistic" because in battlefield they can practically snipe people with them. HMG is the real life spray and pray weapon, er... um... suppression system, yeah. Exactly, and especially for squad level support weapons, they are for sustained supression. Although since you can't supress in warframe it may as well be like a heavy boltor from WH40K esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstorm18 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hm, maybe some heavy mounted weapons? They could fit in planet tilesets. I want heavy mounted weapons in unreachable spots in the maps, operated by Grineer soldiers with red visors. I want rocket launchers which covers large areas on the map, also in unreachable spots. Say some 50 meters away from the players and with no warning. Both weapons will have a metal shield like the one from the Shield Lancer. That is, you have to shoot on the Grineer's head to make it stop working. This will be a challenge for sharpshooters. All that is currently possible in Phobos which have a very open map. Phobos: only the elite go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deservate Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 We're drifting off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revel72 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We need shadow tech bullets :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I'm thinking... What about a machine gun that fires at the rate of Gorgon before the spin up? High damage, let's say 50. Drawing from rifle mods and ammo pool. With no magazine... Meaning, belt fed. That's right... A big ol' pile o' GITSOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstorm18 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I'm thinking... What about a machine gun that fires at the rate of Gorgon before the spin up? High damage, let's say 50. Drawing from rifle mods and ammo pool. With no magazine... Meaning, belt fed. That's right... A big ol' pile o' GITSOME! This will bring some use to the Ammo Drum mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 This will bring some use to the Ammo Drum mod. My point exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volthorne Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 My point exactly. And also be OP as F*** unless you're going to give it an accuracy of 0.01 or there-about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 And also be OP as F*** unless you're going to give it an accuracy of 0.01 or there-about. Machine guns are accurate. The M2 is accurate at up to 2 miles(3.2 km). The M-249 is good for 700+ meters. The recoil/mass of the weapon are the problems. The less mass a weapon has, the more recoil the user has to absorb. I just want a 'real' machine gun. Something with punch, range and belt-fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soluh Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Basically, we can all agree that DE need to implement this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 M60E4 thousands of years in the future.......*smacks lips* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 This with Rhino and the speed thing key from the vaults Dual Zorens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioCharge Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) Basically, we can all agree that DE need to implement this: *snip* That looks freakin' badass. Edited November 12, 2013 by BioCharge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Name: *surprise me* Type: Machine Gun Damage: 50 Damage Type: Bullet(Maybe Armor-Piercing?) Projectile Speed: Hit-Scan Fire Rate: 4.0 Accuracy: 16(I still don't know what these numbers mean, but this weapon needs to be accurate) Trigger: Automatic Magazine: Belt-Fed Reload: 0(draws from a belt feed system, reloading is not necessary) Critical Hit Chance: 2.5% Critical Hit Damage: 150% Other notes... There is no spool-up time. You cannot aim down the sights and there is no zoom. This one is hip fire only, it's a truly HEAVY weapon. The recoil should be mid-range, manageable, but not insane. I'm using recoil in place of a reduced accuracy because a skilled shooter will be able to get the most out of each round. Possible reduction in movement speed when firing? This weapon will use Rifle Mods and Ammo Pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Ah you mean what the Gorgon should've been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonie_Van_Leeuwenhoek Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Yeah, this idea sounds interesting. I, too, want to see weapon with too many bullet in one magazine and has so much disadvantages that shooting around like crazy person is better. I'm serious. Weapon with this much ammunition can only be balance by not too high damage and stupid recoil. Maybe I deep down want to dual-wield gorgon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marelooke Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Ah you mean what the Gorgon should've been? And still could become...one can dream, right...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkymatej Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Name: *surprise me* Type: Machine Gun Damage: 50 Damage Type: Bullet(Maybe Armor-Piercing?) Projectile Speed: Hit-Scan Fire Rate: 4.0 Accuracy: 16(I still don't know what these numbers mean, but this weapon needs to be accurate) Trigger: Automatic Magazine: Belt-Fed Reload: 0(draws from a belt feed system, reloading is not necessary) Critical Hit Chance: 2.5% Critical Hit Damage: 150% Other notes... There is no spool-up time. You cannot aim down the sights and there is no zoom. This one is hip fire only, it's a truly HEAVY weapon. The recoil should be mid-range, manageable, but not insane. I'm using recoil in place of a reduced accuracy because a skilled shooter will be able to get the most out of each round. Possible reduction in movement speed when firing? This weapon will use Rifle Mods and Ammo Pool. this. i'd even give it a smaller rate of fire, like 2-3 per sec. and (optionaly) increase base dmg a bit also, it needs to sound powerfull, sth like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 this. i'd even give it a smaller rate of fire, like 2-3 per sec. and (optionaly) increase base dmg a bit also, it needs to sound powerfull, sth like Ma Deuce... Sounds like victory. Hearing the spent shells hitting the ground is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrybatog Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) You mean like a minigun? No, most guns you consider "Machine Guns" are so inaptly labeled due to poor gun education / television-generated misconceptions. The majority of these guns are actually L(light)MGs. What the OP is describing is in fact a Machine Gun, one of which is not presently acquirable through normal means. They are not typically used in combat due to their cumbersome qualities making them unwieldy to all but large, sturdy, and dexterous combatants. Edited November 16, 2013 by Scrybatog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 And still could become...one can dream, right...? With the Gorgon destined to go the way of ol'Yeller, I'm afraid everything points towards to DE not wanting to touch the Gorgon at all, but rather let it slip away into obscurity. Such a sad fate for the most iconic weapon of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewens Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Gorgon was a fun MG. When trading kicks in watch the high price they'll trade for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrybatog Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Gorgon was a fun MG. When trading kicks in watch the high price they'll trade for. Trading will only include keys and mods (confirmed yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I miss 20k affinity = 20 weapon ranks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makemap Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 We need a MG42 or Tommy gun in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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