Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I've already ran his mission 5 times and have all the Blueprints for Valkyr. From the codex entries I start to wonder, what happened there. ALAD V Shield : 3500 Armor: 250 Health: 1900 Zanuka Shield: 5000 Armor: 25 Health: 800 From that alone you'd assume that this would be a hard fight and a fun one at that. Something that takes time and lively movement to stay alive. Well that was not the case. If you try tanking Zanuka it is basically in god mode while ALAD is still standing. The issue starts here, ALAD dies by far to quickly, and Zanuka is quick to follow the minute it loses that god mode ALAD supported it with. The whole fit is a walk in, walk out experience. I was expecting something like Lephatos, where it takes time to kill and fight. Making it a worth while boss, but that was not represented here at all. Overall, this boss needs proper stats or at the very least some powerful scaling. -------------------------------------- Post Patch: He scaled some what. Hardly something worth noting, but its something. His level has doubled and zanuka is smarter and quicker to get to ALAD. They improved the level by making it longer and making sure baddies would swarm you as soon as they got the chance. (That i love) Its a slight improvement, but still the issue resides, drops are still too common. Did 3 more runs with this new patch, got all 3 parts yet again. Biggest issue yet is boss scaling has to be higher but that's for another subject all together. Edited November 26, 2013 by Darkfreack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixlysss Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yeah, something felt off...I mean sure I'm mag prime but...seriously it shouldn't be this easy of a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 So true. The warframe parts are too easy to get too. I've seen piles of people saying they got all of valkyr in 3 runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellbinding Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I dont think he was meant to be like one of the most difficult bosses. He's on Jupiter which is like level 11-14 :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 no offence but zanuka dies first. because she can't detect Loki. Because of Master Race. and maybe because of 3k damage. but anyway. Alav V and Zanuka are helpless against Loki or even lowly Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Olympian Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Agreed, that is why I rushed him to get all parts so happy. Got QT today, Valkyr parts, and building all now! Also note to devs, Zaunka are killed in less tahn two seconds when Rhino Stomped, primed, and masked in nice bullet sauce. Edited November 25, 2013 by 123Olympian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyOfLamb Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yeah, it was quite underwhelming to say the least, and I got stuck in a door for 2 minutes and get to the boss room and he's already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervara Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I just killed Zanuka in one clip before even going for Alad V. The entire mission was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 I dont think he was meant to be like one of the most difficult bosses. He's on Jupiter which is like level 11-14 :/ Even then Vor is at the start and he scales to that of 50 from the old system. Alad didn't seen to scale what so ever, it felt like 20 from the old system. no offence but zanuka dies first. because she can't detect Loki. Because of Master Race. and maybe because of 3k damage. but anyway. Alav V and Zanuka are helpless against Loki or even lowly Ash. I ran in as loki with a friend and Zanuka does the same stalker debuff, he removed our clocks with not a single issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rundas342 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 If you want a challenge you could simply remove all the mods on your weapons and frames and go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemeniah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Immediately after patching, I took my Obex ready to punch him in the face, but he dropped before I get a chance to his face. :[ DE plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) If you want a challenge you could simply remove all the mods on your weapons and frames and go for it. I am planning on doing that just for the challenge, but we really should be forced to such extremes to enjoy a proper fight. Immediately after patching, I took my Obex ready to punch him in the face, but he dropped before I get a chance to his face. :[ DE plz. Seems legit and about right to what is going on here. Edited November 25, 2013 by Darkfreack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Without invincibility phase Vor would go down even faster and nobody complained about his remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaian-a-coel Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Zanuka has a godmode? That's news to me, I downed him in two seconds before putting a bullet in the Salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaymoreNo47 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 done farming berserker. They can buff it all they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I ran in as loki with a friend and Zanuka does the same stalker debuff, he removed our clocks with not a single issue. key word "friend". i am running solo. Edited November 25, 2013 by Althix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Without invincibility phase Vor would go down even faster and nobody complained about his remake. Vor and Krill have god mods of their own but it makes it a proper long fight. Which is a good thing to slow down item farmers. Things need to be worth a challenge to obtain. Otherwise there is nothing fun about it. Zanuka has a godmode? That's news to me, I downed him in two seconds before putting a bullet in the Salad. It is if you dont have all your gear rigged with Toxic or Gas. It's sheilds recharge the sec you stop hitting them. done farming berserker. They can buff it all they want. This mentality is may break and ruin the game in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 key word "friend". i am running solo. If it was one loki and another frame that would be exposed to aggro I understand. But even so in solo aggro just doesn't disappear it just gets misplaced. Even with that misplacement she managed to find us and debuff the clock on both of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumboldtZ Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 5 runs and my Soma killed AladV with 1-2 bullets to the head each time One run out of four the Zanuka was super tanky tho. Maybe he has a buff skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 They need buff...serious buff. Vor is way stronger and they are supposed to be lvl 20-24 boss. Napalm does more damage and as tanky as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoeleVeerod Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I dont think he was meant to be like one of the most difficult bosses. He's on Jupiter which is like level 11-14 :/ Yes, therefore he should be AT LEAST level 17. Level 20 is fine too. Perhaps not as high as many would wish, but having a level 40 boss in a 11-14 location with this level scaling is nonsense. The fact is, the concept is very nice, but you can play around with several weapons and get the same result without being cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 RED TEXT HAS SPOKEN!!!! Will edit OP if issue has changed or there still needs to be work done on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick720 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I thought he was fairly difficult. Granted, I went in with a dread, a ballistica, and dual ichors, and the only time I could really hurt him was with the DI, but it was a fun fight nonetheless. The only thing I would change is scaling, but the rest is perfectly fine. I thought it was actually pretty enjoyable figuring out how to hurt him and kill zanuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 If it was one loki and another frame that would be exposed to aggro I understand. But even so in solo aggro just doesn't disappear it just gets misplaced. Even with that misplacement she managed to find us and debuff the clock on both of us. http://youtu.be/K5dZIgq3p8w zero reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkfreack Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I thought he was fairly difficult. Granted, I went in with a dread, a ballistica, and dual ichors, and the only time I could really hurt him was with the DI, but it was a fun fight nonetheless. The only thing I would change is scaling, but the rest is perfectly fine. I thought it was actually pretty enjoyable figuring out how to hurt him and kill zanuka. I think the biggest issue was that the trailer showed the weakness to start, Alad being the main target. Otherwise it would have been a nice guessing game like it was with Lepantis. Aside from the glowing weak points. http://youtu.be/K5dZIgq3p8w zero reaction. This is exactly the issue. Edited November 25, 2013 by Darkfreack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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