Lord_Stormy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) OH dear god add the trench back keep the armor but add the lil trench sides back with the JIBBERING MAWS on it IT TOTALLY MADE HIM LOOK BADASS AND UNIQUE DONT TAKE MY FAVORITE FEATURE AWAY btw samurai wore a cloak like coat under there armor so it would still be lore friendly not to mention with out it, it feels like he is missing something Edited September 3, 2014 by Rynefall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Stormy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 OR AT LEAST MAKE A ALT SKIN THAT ALLOWS THE TRENCH OR A STEAM COMMUNITY SKIN THAT ALLOWS IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiouHotaru Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Red has said that he dosnt want Typhus to be a tank, his role is a glasscannon that buffs himself. I think thats a really cool and different way of looking at frame roles and abilities, and it would also require players to put different kind of thought into how to mod him and play him. Well, a glass-cannon needs the damage or ability to last long enough to buff themselves in the first place. So either he's a glass cannon that can nuke everything, or a tank. DE doesn't seem to do these either-ors sorts of frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Well, a glass-cannon needs the damage or ability to last long enough to buff themselves in the first place. So either he's a glass cannon that can nuke everything, or a tank. DE doesn't seem to do these either-ors sorts of frames. everyone of his abilities can deal damage. two can buff/heal him. One can be comboed with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiouHotaru Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 everyone of his abilities can deal damage. two can buff/heal him. One can be comboed with the other. What I mean is, if you look at the frames we've got, a lot of the melee-centric frames are tanks, either with a large health pool (Ash, Saryn), or with higher than average armor (Saryn, Oberon, Valkyr, Rhino). By contrast, the Caster-style frames get knocked over by a stiff breeze (Mag, Mirage, Ember, Nova, etc). Hybrid-frames (Oberon, Excalibur, Hydroid) have an average mix of stats. While I understand what the OP is going for, I just think that making a melee-centric glass cannon only works if his damage is high, which in his concept, isn't. He's designed to start weak and then become super-buff as time goes on. I'm not saying the concept is bad, just that it goes against DE's design motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoso Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 :D I WANT IT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorkyr Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 everyone of his abilities can deal damage. two can buff/heal him. One can be comboed with the other.Wonderful gameplay hours in perspective *^* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSkittlez Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 What I mean is, if you look at the frames we've got, a lot of the melee-centric frames are tanks, either with a large health pool (Ash, Saryn), or with higher than average armor (Saryn, Oberon, Valkyr, Rhino). By contrast, the Caster-style frames get knocked over by a stiff breeze (Mag, Mirage, Ember, Nova, etc). Hybrid-frames (Oberon, Excalibur, Hydroid) have an average mix of stats. While I understand what the OP is going for, I just think that making a melee-centric glass cannon only works if his damage is high, which in his concept, isn't. He's designed to start weak and then become super-buff as time goes on. I'm not saying the concept is bad, just that it goes against DE's design motif. Sorry, but I completely disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSkittlez Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 But Cherry Blossom syandana... a no-no :D Way to non-lore thingy. Please elaborate how it breaks the lore. What lore are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSkittlez Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 I appreciate that you're all interested in Typhus, but I want to clarify a few things. - DE has not confirmed in any way that Typhus will be added to the game (yes they expressed interest and they liked the concept, but that is not confirmation). - Although Typhus's "signature" weapon the Infested Mios is going to make it in the game eventually, that does not mean Typhus is also going to make it in the game.Please keep in mind that ideas (and fan concepts) for Warframe are just that; ideas. They can be completely out of the box, although we have assumed "laws" of Warframe design, these very laws are often turned upside down (i.e. Zephyr's Aesthstic, Hydroid Puddles, Oberon Paladins, Nekros Necromancers, etc).I see it a lot with other concepts too; people come along and tell people "No, it can't be in the game, it doesn't fit" about their concept. We don't know what can and cannot fit, the "laws" of Warframe design are known only by DE, so please stop telling people that their ideas have no chance to make it in the game, none of us knows what DE will or won't do when it comes to Warframe design. Also, please don't make Typhus "Hype" threads or discussion threads without talking to me first. The place to discuss Typhus is here, in his home.Thanks for understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarEdge7 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) OH dear god add the trench back keep the armor but add the lil trench sides back with the JIBBERING MAWS on it IT TOTALLY MADE HIM LOOK BADASS AND UNIQUE DONT TAKE MY FAVORITE FEATURE AWAY btw samurai wore a cloak like coat under there armor so it would still be lore friendly not to mention with out it, it feels like he is missing something I like the way WE think ;D Edited September 4, 2014 by LunarEdge7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Stormy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I like the way WE think ;D XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah we must remember DE work on new content long before we see it, contests and leaks aside. Typhus may inspire something totally different. We just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter126 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah we must remember DE work on new content long before we see it, contests and leaks aside. Typhus may inspire something totally different. We just wait and see. well I think there might be something inspiring about Typhus that DE might put I appreciate that you're all interested in Typhus, but I want to clarify a few things. - DE has not confirmed in any way that Typhus will be added to the game (yes they expressed interest and they liked the concept, but that is not confirmation). - Although Typhus's "signature" weapon the Infested Mios is going to make it in the game eventually, that does not mean Typhus is also going to make it in the game. Please keep in mind that ideas (and fan concepts) for Warframe are just that; ideas. They can be completely out of the box, although we have assumed "laws" of Warframe design, these very laws are often turned upside down (i.e. Zephyr's Aesthstic, Hydroid Puddles, Oberon Paladins, Nekros Necromancers, etc). I see it a lot with other concepts too; people come along and tell people "No, it can't be in the game, it doesn't fit" about their concept. We don't know what can and cannot fit, the "laws" of Warframe design are known only by DE, so please stop telling people that their ideas have no chance to make it in the game, none of us knows what DE will or won't do when it comes to Warframe design. Also, please don't make Typhus "Hype" threads or discussion threads without talking to me first. The place to discuss Typhus is here, in his home. Thanks for understanding. I would definitely want Typhus into the game but i would be happy if at least your other stuff like weapons were put into the game or weapons that proves it was inspired by you, I'd just be glad if one thing similar to your weapons were put into the game or your stuff. and I never knew people made "Hype" threads or discussion threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Twenty7Talonz Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What I mean is, if you look at the frames we've got, a lot of the melee-centric frames are tanks, either with a large health pool (Ash, Saryn), or with higher than average armor (Saryn, Oberon, Valkyr, Rhino). By contrast, the Caster-style frames get knocked over by a stiff breeze (Mag, Mirage, Ember, Nova, etc). Hybrid-frames (Oberon, Excalibur, Hydroid) have an average mix of stats. While I understand what the OP is going for, I just think that making a melee-centric glass cannon only works if his damage is high, which in his concept, isn't. He's designed to start weak and then become super-buff as time goes on. I'm not saying the concept is bad, just that it goes against DE's design motif. This post... Ha. You seem to not realize that Excalibur, Loki and Hydroid are "melee-centric" and Frost is a "caster". While Frost has slow movement speed, with his high shield and armor nobody's taking him out by a stiff breeze, I mean he is Mr. Stiff Breeze himsef. There's a wide variety of frames, many ways to play, nothing is impossible. On top of that you classified that Oberon has above average armor and has an average mix of stats, contradicting. Oberon has above average armor and health btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hey red, I want to talk to you some time about working on a concept of an infested crossbow (one that actually works and is good not that S#&$ty rifle with decoration called attica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Stormy Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Hey red, I want to talk to you some time about working on a concept of an infested crossbow (one that actually works and is good not that S#&$ty rifle with decoration called attica) have you seen Attica with thunderbolt you sir obviously have not felt real power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Stormy Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 This post... Ha. You seem to not realize that Excalibur, Loki and Hydroid are "melee-centric" and Frost is a "caster". While Frost has slow movement speed, with his high shield and armor nobody's taking him out by a stiff breeze, I mean he is Mr. Stiff Breeze himsef. There's a wide variety of frames, many ways to play, nothing is impossible. On top of that you classified that Oberon has above average armor and has an average mix of stats, contradicting. Oberon has above average armor and health btw. Excail is by far the weakest in the game all show lil bite and Loki my kind sir is utility not melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) have you seen Attica with thunderbolt you sir obviously have not felt real power last I checked attica is not compatible with thunderbolt as the game treats attica as a rifle not a bow, that's another thing, it doesn't feel like a crossbow it feels like a rifle. *checks wiki* well I guess they changed the thunderbolt thing, but still doesn't change the fact it doesn't feel like a crossbow Edited September 6, 2014 by Melos-mevim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSkittlez Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Excail is by far the weakest in the game all show lil bite and Loki my kind sir is utility not melee I cannot disagree that Excalibur is one of the weaker Warframes, but like all Warframes, Excalibur can be as deadly as any other Warframe in the game. It just takes skill and know-how to use properly. You can't just run into a room with Excalibur and expect to face-tank everything a Level 40 Heavy Gunner can throw at you. And in response to Loki being considered "Melee-Centric"; you have to consider that Loki does have two powers that compliment melee, the first being radial disarm, which forces all enemies in the area to use melee only. The other power is, of course, invisibility. Which grants a x4 (!) modifier to all melee damage dealt by Loki for the duration of the power. Loki also has a higher base speed compared to Ash, making him a much more nimble fighter, well suited to fast attacking weapons like daggers or some long-swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSkittlez Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) have you seen Attica with thunderbolt you sir obviously have not felt real power Yeah. cool and all that you can use Thunderbolt on the Attica. 30% chance isn't that great, but it gives you some more versatility in combat... for a single shot rifle. But... why not just use an Ogris if you want to explode the bad guys, which has a 100% chance to detonate on impact! Or what about the Latron Prime? Sure its kind of vanilla, but its still leagues ahead of the Attica. Or if you want to pin enemies to the wall that bad, why not use the Boltor Prime? Have you seen the damage numbers that thing can crank out? Its nuts! Or how about the Paris Prime? Which is like the Attica, but, like, more. So much more... Edited September 6, 2014 by RedSkittlez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Twenty7Talonz Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Excail is by far the weakest in the game all show lil bite and Loki my kind sir is utility not melee Radial Blind... 4x melee damage while enemies are blind. Slash dash... Get close to enemies quickly. Super jump... Get to enemies on higher levels quickly. Loki, invisibility 4x melee damage. Use Radial disarm then decoy to form a group of enemies then go for that 4x melee damage while invisibe. Sure Loki is utility but clearly meant to be melee as is Excalibur. Weakest frame? Last week a friend and I went to wave 55 t4 defense, 2 man (Loki and Excal), no lasers and melee weapons only. (Serro easily takes out drones). Tell me what's your definition of weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I cannot disagree that Excalibur is one of the weaker Warframes, but like all Warframes, Excalibur can be as deadly as any other Warframe in the game. It just takes skill and know-how to use properly. You can't just run into a room with Excalibur and expect to face-tank everything a Level 40 Heavy Gunner can throw at you. And in response to Loki being considered "Melee-Centric"; you have to consider that Loki does have two powers that compliment melee, the first being radial disarm, which forces all enemies in the area to use melee only. The other power is, of course, invisibility. Which grants a x4 (!) modifier to all melee damage dealt by Loki for the duration of the power. Loki also has a higher base speed compared to Ash, making him a much more nimble fighter, well suited to fast attacking weapons like daggers or some long-swords. Radial Blind... 4x melee damage while enemies are blind. Slash dash... Get close to enemies quickly. Super jump... Get to enemies on higher levels quickly. Loki, invisibility 4x melee damage. Use Radial disarm then decoy to form a group of enemies then go for that 4x melee damage while invisibe. Sure Loki is utility but clearly meant to be melee as is Excalibur. Weakest frame? Last week a friend and I went to wave 55 t4 defense, 2 man (Loki and Excal), no lasers and melee weapons only. (Serro easily takes out drones). Tell me what's your definition of weak? I main Excalibur. If you think he's weak, I would love to show you the numbers I'm pulling with my channeling/radial blind Excal build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So it seems that Typhus will not be joining the ranks of the Tenno in U15 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So it seems that Typhus will not be joining the ranks of the Tenno in U15 :( shhh man don't let them know that, let them dream on, don't break so many hearts like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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