Neuhnee Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Right, we've already seen WaterBall, SplashDash (in three different flavours no less!!), and Tentanado, and we didn't really like any of those abilities the first time around. So the only new thing Hydroid will be bringing to the table is Puddle, and I just can't imagine this ability ever being useful in any situation. Ever. Honestly, I'm really trying to not just completely give up on this game and I'm not trying to be an &#! but I really can't conceive of any situation where turning into a puddle, lying about, and hoping that something...falls into me?...would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FrostByte- Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 the puddle is for stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie_mastyr Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Can't say for sure but it could wreak havoc against melee enemies in a defense scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mr.Meeseeks- Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) It would likely be one of those abilities no one uses and those min/maxing Hydroid will forma out the slot for it for something more favorable. The only situation I can think of where it could come in handy is if you are near death and want a time-out to regen your shields. Judging from the live stream it doesn't seem to do much damage. Maybe it can be buffed enough to be useful with goading a lot of Infested to come running towards you then suffocate them in the puddle. Edited April 5, 2014 by spidey2092 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 well... imagine you are about to die horribly from an angry horde of enemies, you turn into a puddle and survive... until you go back to normal and they kill you... (unless you can move as a puddle but didnt seem to be the case) so i guess puddle it's like loki's invisivility except you can't do anything except be a puddle : D. i kinda want to give it a try though, the idea of becoming a puddle has seduced me in ways i could have not imagined... i want to be a puddle man... i wanna try it... i doubt i'll stay a puddle for long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Puddle Simulator 2014 Anyway, from what I could tell it'll be a viable survival ability like certain stealth abilities. But the best thing about it may be it's future. From what I can guess, DE's insistence on bringing in new stealth-oriented abilities hints at a Stealth update/rework. Edited April 5, 2014 by PsychedelicSnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I wonder if it will work on bosses, just imagining the joy of trolling your teammates by concealing Lephantis in a shallow little puddle of water for an indefinite amount of time. Silly as it looks though, I think it will have it's uses (it would've looked cooler if he just formed the puddle beneath him and quickly sunk under it instead of turning into it though). P.S. If this trend continues, I wonder if Earthframe will turn into a rock, preferable one your allies can hide behind or even throw you at people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuhnee Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 the puddle is for stealth. How can it be for stealth? From what we've seen, Puddle is a stationary ability. We already have an ability that lets us remain undetected while not moving, it's called hiding behind a box. It costs zero energy and can be equipped on any Frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebar1313 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Loki decoy on puddle after using disarm. Or puddle on an alarm console so the enemies can't alert everyone. There your argument is now invalid Edited April 5, 2014 by zebar1313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I wonder if it will work on bosses, just imagining the joy of trolling your teammates by concealing Lephantis in a shallow little puddle of water for an indefinite amount of time. Silly as it looks though, I think it will have it's uses (it would've looked cooler if he just formed the puddle beneath him and quickly sunk under it instead of turning into it though). P.S. If this trend continues, I wonder if Earthframe will turn into a rock, preferable one your allies can hide behind or even throw you at people. +1 for "turn into a rock" ability i want that asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Speak for yourself I like the luck of all those powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanjuju Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 If the puddle is affected by power range then it will have plenty of use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 did anyone else think back to killer instinct (talkin old school, not xbone) when they first saw that power? what was his name... glacius? made me nostalgia hard yo... just sayin. on topic: its going to be like banshees silence power. aka, useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 1. Find a choke point. 2. Turn into a puddle. 3. Suck enemies into the Void. 4. Profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 1. Find a choke point. 2. Turn into a puddle. 3. Suck enemies into the Void. 4. Profit! thought about that one too, does seem kinda neat to use it like that. i have to wonder though... how effective will that really be? i mean, if it does a whole 5 dmg per second, then its just gonna be another trash power. with that in mind, aside from the fact that you can become "supper puddle man" and the jollies you can have from it just being funny/neat, it really does seem like it will be mostly useless... though i suppose it could be useful for pulling enemies away from an objective or something like that. all that aside: speculation gets us nowhere fast. lets all just wait and give it a test before we take a stance on it. it could very well be the best thing ever to come to warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Well, it can be an "Oh sh*t" button, allowing you to regenerate your shields, to tell your Trinity to cast Blessing, et cetera. Offensive usability? None. Unless... What if every enemy sucked in is damaged over time, but at the same time it gives you health and/or energy with each tick? Edited April 5, 2014 by Angius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeannachaidh Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) You haven't even tried the Frame and you are criticising it... Sigh...Puddle will be useful as CC and Stealth. Combo it with his second ability and some range and power mods, and drag tonnes of enemies into your puddle to prevent them hitting a Defense pod and do damage to them over time. Or if you are taking a lot of fire you can use it to hide away from enemies (while damaging some of them) and regenerate your health and shields. If you like linear missions the second option will be more for you. It also works well if you are in melee mode because it seems to really benefit close quarters combat.Imagine combo-ing Hydro-frame with Loki in Defense! Loki Radial Disarms them so they must melee the pod, but when they get close to the pod... *slurp* ... safe pod is safe! Keep in mind the damage figures shown on the stream are not final. They said that they were a WiP glimpse at the abilities and that they still needed balancing. Edited April 5, 2014 by TheSeannachaidh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Keep in mind the damage figures shown on the stream are not final. They said that they were a WiP glimpse at the abilities and that they still needed balancing. true. but this is DE we are talking about here. balance is not really their strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkjackal_2031 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Comic relief. maybe your enemies will laugh themselves to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 All I read was the name and I pictured it being like Vladimir's pool in League of Legends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depsilon Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Right, we've already seen WaterBall, SplashDash (in three different flavours no less!!), and Tentanado, and we didn't really like any of those abilities the first time around.We? Do you mean you? If you want to give negative feedback I suppose you have that right, but don't try and act like your opinion is more than your own.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuca Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 All I read was the name and I pictured it being like Vladimir's pool in League of Legends. YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeannachaidh Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 true. but this is DE we are talking about here. balance is not really their strong suit. Yeh, I suppose this should be taken into consideration.. Hmm. Well I hope it has a bit of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuhnee Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 We? Do you mean you? If you want to give negative feedback I suppose you have that right, but don't try and act like your opinion is more than your own.. Well, more of an observation really, I just don't see anyone casting Fireball or Slash/Bash/Tail-Dash. And as soon as someone does cast Tornado they're immediately asked to stop scattering the drops all over the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I can imagine it being useful in Survival or Defense missions. Just use it in front of a door and suck in all the enemies rushing through said door, giving your teammates some extra time to clear out the other enemies who've used a different entrance. And if nothing else you could dive into a crowd of enemies that are decimating your allies and give your teammates time to recover/reload/run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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