Krauserlols' Ultimate Corpus Update Threat! The Corpus Shall Rise! [Nef Anyo Revealed! Sorta]

[Cold_Arrow]

These ideas sound awesome and the new units with thier tasks also seem to give a new layer of stealth.

(or atleast enemy idles that you can observe while being stealthy)

[Evariskitsune]

Bumping for visibility due to quality. 

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

Thank you Evariskitsune for covering me while i was out and thank everyone who is supporting my work, or shall i say our work. Im kinda tired today so i will start whit new ideas i have wrotte for the corpus to extend even more this thread.

Again THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT! CORPUS SHALL RISE!

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

IM BACK WHIT UPDATES ON THE TITANS! GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK!

[Evariskitsune]

Alright, my feedback.

 

 

THE TITAN

 

Overview: ITS HERE, ITS HAPPENING, FINALLY SOME INFO ON THE TITAN! Titans are gigantic mini bosses that will appear every now and then on Corpus missions on Mars and Pluto. They usually spawn alone in an arena like section. They are heavily armored and pack quite some firepower. Still pretty early concept so I will write the story while I work on the concept.

*-  My addition:  Size constraints.  Given we're still talking space stations, they should be 3 meters tall on the practical side, and 5 meters tall on the far end.  This would both allow them to be present in specialized arena areas, but also in outdoor, catwalk, and landing bay areas already present. 

Story: In their last effort to protect themselves for the danger that was to come the Orokin created the Titans, guardians of the Orokin they could wipe out entire armies of enemies without much effort. But their joy wouldn’t last long. The infested managed to find a way to sneak inside the Titan factory and ruined their plans.

*- Last effort to save themselves from the Tenno's betrayal instead perhaps?  And honestly, the Orokin didn't seem to have much issue with the infested so... I would think Tenno overrunning the factory would be more likely.

Now some of this forgotten and tainted factories have been found, Years of evolution shows new and more powerful infested and the remains of the Titans that may or may not be possible to salvage.

*- Evolution of the technocyte perhaps?  Also perhaps after this event we might find that MOA units start to become infested as well, at least from those brought to the area? 

Titan variations:

 

Corpus Titan:

 

Codex Entry: Using data collected from the few parts and Orokin logs Corpus found they managed to recreate the Titan, a machine of war from the Orokin Era. It may not be as powerful as his predecessor but it still more than capable to defeat even the strongest of foes.

*- Perhaps also a chance to see it on a Corpus invasion (on either side.) and a high chance to see it on a Corpus defense vs infested? 

@*- Suggested stats: Sprint speed 0.75, time to turn 180 degrees 2 seconds.  Torso twist in forward 120 degree arc with a full twist in 1 second.  Jump height 2 meters.  Shields: 2000 proto shields, regenerative as with warframes though at a 25% rate penalty vs excalibur base.  Health: Alloy Armor: 500, Robotic 5000. 

Weapons:

Primary-

+Option A: Heavy Flux Rifle (as with Flux rifle, but twice the range, twice the slash damage, and also +50% heat damage.)

+Option B: Heavy Plasma Cannon  (Tetra but with significantly heightened damage.)

+Option C: Quadruple Supras (self explanatory)

Secondary-

+Option A: Dual Chainguns (as 2x Soma)

+Option B: Dual Pentas (self explanatory)

Melee-

Rebuilt Orokin Plasma Blade:  Appearance like the MLB-Moonlight from Armored Core 3->Last Raven.  Physical Damage as Gram, +100% magnetic damage, +100% heat damage.  Attacks in forward arcs similar to the katana but in reverse pattern order. 

 

Abilities:

Rocket Barrage-  Fires a swarm of 10 unguided rockets straight forward which then disperse.  Deal 100 blast damage in a 1 meter radius / rocket and causes knockdown. 

Charge- Charges forward, knocking down enemies in path, dealing 200 impact damage to any enemy hit. 

Grenade swarm-  Drops 8 plasma grenades around the titan.

Shockwave- Sends out an electrical current around the titan, dealing 100 electrical damage and procing any hit by the electrical burst. 

 

Infested Titan:

 

Codex Entry: Through years of evolution the Infested found a way to merge whit the damaged machines, creating an abomination of flesh and metal. Its arsenal is limited compared to its counterpart but that won’t stop it from destroying everything in sight.

*- Should be rare and plausibly event only.  Should have a "claw" on the left hand from the infestation.

@*- Suggested stats: Sprint speed 0.50, time to turn 180 degrees 4 seconds.  Torso twist in forward 120 degree arc with a full twist in 2 seconds.  Jump height 1 meter.  Health: Alloy Armor: 500, Infested 500, Sinew 1000.

Weapons limited to melee:

Attack 1:  Swing- attacks with arm, dealing 150 impact damage on connect.

Attack 2: Charge- Charges forward, knocking down enemies in path, dealing 200 impact damage to any enemy hit.

Attack 3: Claw- attacks with claw, dealing 200 slash damage on connect. 

 

 

Amulas:

 

The last functional Titan that survived the Great War, he will vary depending on what faction wins the event.

*- Honestly speaking, I believe that Amulas should be based purely on Orokin and stay "pure" regardless. 

@*- Suggested stats: Sprint speed 1.0, time to turn 180 degrees 1 second.  Torso twist in forward 120 degree arc with a full twist in 0.5 seconds.  Jump height 2 meters.  Shields: 3000 proto shields, regenerative as with warframes equal to Excalibur base.  Health: Alloy Armor: 1000, Robotic 7500. 

Weapons:

Primary-

Orokin Laser: 4x Damage of flux rifle and 4x Range.  Also deals heat damage.

 

Secondary-

Dual boltor primes (self explanatory)

Melee-

Orokin Plasma Blade:  Appearance like the MLB-Moonlight from Armored Core 3->Last Raven.  Doubled physical damage as Gram, +100% magnetic damage, +100% heat damage.  Attacks in forward arcs similar to the katana but in reverse pattern order.

 

 

Feedback on the new MOA coming soon.

 

edit:  Actually I like the new MOA. 

Edited April 21, 2014 by Evariskitsune

[Evariskitsune]

Also, honestly I still find those strider things out of place... so yeah.  Figured I should bring it up, but that's just my opinion. 

[Niryco]

Sorry never had the time to update myself on everything, just wanted to ask, what is the main faction focus of the corpus other than yielding high technology?

 

This would include their philosophy, views on social matters within warframe, militaristic conquest, grineer(other than being simply bitter rivals, some in-depth relationship being made would be nice), economic view and even a social/culture view.

 

It seems like we would be building a lore when i asked these questions, however these questions are done so as to focus the design philosophy of the corpus, if not they would seem like a large group of multiple group of individualistic cliques, making them overall very segregated which is what the grineer actually have.

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

Sorry never had the time to update myself on everything, just wanted to ask, what is the main faction focus of the corpus other than yielding high technology?

 

This would include their philosophy, views on social matters within warframe, militaristic conquest, grineer(other than being simply bitter rivals, some in-depth relationship being made would be nice), economic view and even a social/culture view.

 

It seems like we would be building a lore when i asked these questions, however these questions are done so as to focus the design philosophy of the corpus, if not they would seem like a large group of multiple group of individualistic cliques, making them overall very segregated which is what the grineer actually have.

My view on the Corpus is that they are a faction based around War economy, selling high tech but also keeping the best for them. Thus they are not really an unified faction like Grineer but rather a group of companies and military groups whit kind of the same believes but different goals.

 

And unlike the grineer Corpus is a more strategic faction, as i already said, that uses cunnin tactics and high tech to outsmart their opponents.

[Evariskitsune]

Sorry never had the time to update myself on everything, just wanted to ask, what is the main faction focus of the corpus other than yielding high technology?

 

This would include their philosophy, views on social matters within warframe, militaristic conquest, grineer(other than being simply bitter rivals, some in-depth relationship being made would be nice), economic view and even a social/culture view.

 

It seems like we would be building a lore when i asked these questions, however these questions are done so as to focus the design philosophy of the corpus, if not they would seem like a large group of multiple group of individualistic cliques, making them overall very segregated which is what the grineer actually have.

I'd say if anything given what we know on the corpus, their overall focus should be the aquisition of resources, the expansion of their colonies, the recovery of the history of mankind, and the eventual expansion beyond the solar system.  As well as perhaps a bit of transhumanism but perhaps through nanites to do so... which would go along with their love of capturing warframes; after all, the tenno are the only ones compatible with the technoscyte nanites.  If the corpus could unlock the Tenno's genetic code, they could potentially give themselves immortality. 

 

Philosophical views should be Attain, expand, and live as long as you can.  Given they have a civilian faction, there should be pop culture, music dedicated around various bits.  Sex, present events, and history should be the main focuses of their cultural multimedia.  Generally speaking their militaristic priorities should be defensive positions and resource hubs than anything else.  Given the Greneer's expansion and intent on engulfing the Corpus, plausibly taking away the civilian factions, it is likely that the Corpus as a whole has a deep-seeded resent of the Greneer, as well as a fear among the civilian masses.  Economics should be based on regional dynamics, and I would assume they would mostly have a consumerist population. 

[Niryco]

My view on the Corpus is that they are a faction based around War economy, selling high tech but also keeping the best for them. Thus they are not really an unified faction like Grineer but rather a group of companies and military groups whit kind of the same believes but different goals.

 

And unlike the grineer Corpus is a more strategic faction, as i already said, that uses cunnin tactics and high tech to outsmart their opponents.

 

I'd say if anything given what we know on the corpus, their overall focus should be the aquisition of resources, the expansion of their colonies, the recovery of the history of mankind, and the eventual expansion beyond the solar system.  As well as perhaps a bit of transhumanism but perhaps through nanites to do so... which would go along with their love of capturing warframes; after all, the tenno are the only ones compatible with the technoscyte nanites.  If the corpus could unlock the Tenno's genetic code, they could potentially give themselves immortality. 

 

Philosophical views should be Attain, expand, and live as long as you can.  Given they have a civilian faction, there should be pop culture, music dedicated around various bits.  Sex, present events, and history should be the main focuses of their cultural multimedia.  Generally speaking their militaristic priorities should be defensive positions and resource hubs than anything else.  Given the Greneer's expansion and intent on engulfing the Corpus, plausibly taking away the civilian factions, it is likely that the Corpus as a whole has a deep-seeded resent of the Greneer, as well as a fear among the civilian masses.  Economics should be based on regional dynamics, and I would assume they would mostly have a consumerist population. 

And immediately we have a problem, which of these two philosophies should we adopt? We should focus these first before we proceed with ideas if not the corpus won't be uniform.

[Evariskitsune]

And immediately we have a problem, which of these two philosophies should we adopt? We should focus these first before we proceed with ideas if not the corpus won't be uniform.

Well, I would primarily ask your opinion.  But it is rather obvious that outside of the heads of companies, there must be a vast civilian populace below them.  So we need to take the civilians into account.  Given this structure, it would be safe to say their military is based on a volunteer basis if history were to be any model.  I have no doubt that the Corpus would be divided... but that's how things in a Bureaucracy are.  I would say the military would be more organized under a traditional model of officer ranks, but given the generals would be under different orders depending on who the civilian leader of a system would be, that needs to be taken into account.  But I believe the overall social structure of the Corpus needs to take into account their civilians as well, not only the military and leaders.

[Niryco]

Well, I would primarily ask your opinion.  But it is rather obvious that outside of the heads of companies, there must be a vast civilian populace below them.  So we need to take the civilians into account.  Given this structure, it would be safe to say their military is based on a volunteer basis if history were to be any model.  I have no doubt that the Corpus would be divided... but that's how things in a Bureaucracy are.  I would say the military would be more organized under a traditional model of officer ranks, but given the generals would be under different orders depending on who the civilian leader of a system would be, that needs to be taken into account.  But I believe the overall social structure of the Corpus needs to take into account their civilians as well, not only the military and leaders.

The corpus trades away warframes for cash and money, but some like Alad V uses them for power. The leaders then disagree and fight back asking the tenno to put him back in his place.

 

The corpus in this sense act like a united nation, believing on the idea of fairness. They thus are more of collaborative but not co-operative. They mine resources on platforms that is somewhat safe? It is indeed modern for its time, but is it safe? Does it represent MNCs that exploit the weak? Like sweatshops?

 

Their leaders are also in shape, they are very professional and noble it seems. They are a merchant cult, trading, robots do their binding as well. It is based on what the wiki said. So overall how should we see the corpus? Their leaders are more like manipulative greedy pigs who are consumerist like what you said.

 

What if the social structure is a conscripted nation? Instead of being soldiers everyone is forced to be an engineer? The families that inherit the companies pass it on from generation to generation. This is coporacracy in one sense. The nation is just one big business for them. A consumerist nation would be more successful if everyone is forced to spend then given to option to spend.

 

So in this sense, the corpus would believe in the idea of reward to work basis, you scratch my back i scratch yours. Therefore they are quite neutral in nature. Given how neutral they should be, what unit types would help them enforce power without the need to over-exert? Robotics and probably exosuits, it is most logical in one sense. Weapons that are good for defense, and units based on the design of defense since they are not out to ruin the impression of others, only make theirs seem much better.

 

Sorry for my literary analysis, but as much as i can see, corpus should have more armored units which promote more defensive characteristics. Furthermore instead of being strong in numbers, they should be strong in terms of making weaker units do their bidding, a possible recurrent cultural norm given their social context.

[Evariskitsune]

The corpus trades away warframes for cash and money, but some like Alad V uses them for power. The leaders then disagree and fight back asking the tenno to put him back in his place.

 

The corpus in this sense act like a united nation, believing on the idea of fairness. They thus are more of collaborative but not co-operative. They mine resources on platforms that is somewhat safe? It is indeed modern for its time, but is it safe? Does it represent MNCs that exploit the weak? Like sweatshops?

 

Their leaders are also in shape, they are very professional and noble it seems. They are a merchant cult, trading, robots do their binding as well. It is based on what the wiki said. So overall how should we see the corpus? Their leaders are more like manipulative greedy pigs who are consumerist like what you said.

 

What if the social structure is a conscripted nation? Instead of being soldiers everyone is forced to be an engineer? The families that inherit the companies pass it on from generation to generation. This is coporacracy in one sense. The nation is just one big business for them. A consumerist nation would be more successful if everyone is forced to spend then given to option to spend.

 

So in this sense, the corpus would believe in the idea of reward to work basis, you scratch my back i scratch yours. Therefore they are quite neutral in nature. Given how neutral they should be, what unit types would help them enforce power without the need to over-exert? Robotics and probably exosuits, it is most logical in one sense. Weapons that are good for defense, and units based on the design of defense since they are not out to ruin the impression of others, only make theirs seem much better.

 

Sorry for my literary analysis, but as much as i can see, corpus should have more armored units which promote more defensive characteristics. Furthermore instead of being strong in numbers, they should be strong in terms of making weaker units do their bidding, a possible recurrent cultural norm given their social context.

Well yes, the corpus trade away warframes for cash and money, but the question is what are the warframes being then used for?  Obviously there have to be others than Alad V who are interested in the research for one reason or another. 

 

As for sweatshops, I believe that it is more likely that robotics and exosuits are used for the more dangerous mining operations.  The only truly dangerous mines would be those near infested or Grineer held territories... but even then, they might get paid more for that danger, and it could still be voluntary. 

 

For the leaders, 'pigs' is not a term I would use.  But greedy and manipulative?  Undoubtedly. 

 

As for a caste system.. perhaps.  It's quite possible, if inefficient.  In a consumerist nation there should be bare minimums of forced spending, then pay above for optional spending.  Optional spending of course would include multimedia.  But this can be true in A caste system, capitalist system, or socialist system.  Given it's an elective board, a socialist system is the most likely that I can see, and given the solar system dynamics, individuals are likely tracked based on their strengths through schooling, with later schooling specializing in a field. and then given a job suited to said field.  From there it would be based on performance and manipulating your way through the ranks, as with any political company.  

 

A neutral, benefit-for-benefit ideology is quite plausible as well, and I would say much of their police force would likely be robotic units controlled from a central hub in each facility.  Exosuits would likely remain a military commodity given their relative expense.  

 

But I have no doubt that the Corpus should have more defensive units.  And as a result, a mixture of suppressing fire (ex Supra) and sniping weapons (ex railguns and the Lanka.)  I would think given this the standard sidearm would likely be a Cestra.  I could also see standard MOA units armed with Dera rifles, and perhaps 10-20% of soldiers armed with the Dera.  The Flux rifle was likely developed to combat infested given it's stats, so it should be the primary weapon seen carried by Corpus units on infested bouts. 

 

But that's my input. 

[[DE]Drew]

 

Construction Crewmen (Constructors):

 

Overview: Thinking the other day how to improve the Corpus even more and how the Titans would be I figured out: hey to build the Titans Corpus will need Construction workers! Once again this came to me as I was playing Borderlands 2 (luv that game so much) on my new Assassin fighting Wilhem. I think Corpus could learn a thing or two from Hyperion.

Anyways Construction Crewmen (name still in progress) will be kinda like those Hyperion Engineers from Borderlands two, whit the armored suits created to carry heavy stuff. Because well they are the ones working on the Titan.

 

 

Those Construction Crewmen better get hazard pay. Sounds like a dangerous job. High chance of death. 

[Evariskitsune]

Those Construction Crewmen better get hazard pay. Sounds like a dangerous job. High chance of death. 

OMG we got a dev in here.  Start the hype engines!

 

 

... Maybe?  Well, I can hope. 

Edited April 23, 2014 by Evariskitsune

[Deanoa]

So much yes! >///<

 

Devs, listen to this man! You may or may not exactly copy this. But all of it just sounds so good!

It would make the Corpus so much more interesting and harder to fight! (And I mean "harder" in a good way!)

[Goosmo]

Those Construction Crewmen better get hazard pay. Sounds like a dangerous job. High chance of death. 

Not a higher chance of death than charging a freckin space ninja with a stun stick dera like an idiot.

 

If you are unlucky, you will get one shotted.

 

If you are lucky, the ninja might pull out the sword instead of a gun, and give you plus 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% (wow that's alot of 0) chance of winning.

Edited April 23, 2014 by ArchTenno

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

Not a higher chance of death than charging a freckin space ninja with a stun stick like an idiot.

Hey dont judge the prodmen! those guys have balls!

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

Those Construction Crewmen better get hazard pay. Sounds like a dangerous job. High chance of death. 

OMG A DEV IN MY THREAD YAAAAY!

Its a dangerous job but someone has to do it right?

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

So much yes! >///<

 

Devs, listen to this man! You may or may not exactly copy this. But all of it just sounds so good!

It would make the Corpus so much more interesting and harder to fight! (And I mean "harder" in a good way!)

Like entertainingly hard i supose :3

[Goosmo]

Hey dont judge the prodmen! those guys have balls!

Srry, my bad.

 

I mean charging a space ninja with a dera, not stunstick.

[Evariskitsune]

Like entertainingly hard i supose :3

So back on topic; your thoughts on my replies to social dynamics of the Corpus vs your views?

[Clawtank96]

The amount of detail is great. I would love this event.

[Papa_Nuk_Nuk]

Such hype
So Corpus
Much Buff
Very Bump

+1

[Flamingfighter]

Definitely a fascinating and well-thought out event concept for Corpus 2.0. I do hope that since a dev has taken notice, that we can see an upgrade to the Corpus strategies and enemy types, as well as more reworks of Corpus bosses since the Grineer seem to feel the love more than Corpus do. But, AI is a toughy to rework along with all the other things, so the earliest possible chance of getting this would have to be Update 14 or later (unless they've already started upgrading corpus).