r0ckwolf Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 I like it. My suggested changes or the ones mentioned in the Livestream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebi Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Scott's suggestions were very underwhelming and quite worrying. Yours are much more fun and potentially make excal more viable despite the incoming radial blind nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedu13 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Scott needs to step aside, this is getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I can see Excalibur going the same way frost went nerf the one main ability radial blind and add a tiny inch of silly tweaks and a bit of damage. don't see a frost any more wont be seeing Excalibur anymore. I saw the dev stream, slash dash wasn't mentioned and yet it does less than the upgraded versions such as rhino charge and tidal surge. same goes for super jump, zephr will still have a better ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0ckwolf Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I completely agree! To not touch Slash Dash at all is the biggest mistake they could have made, it is (for me) the Trade Mark Warframe Ability and it´s complete garbage, i mean just the last few weaks have proven it more then anything else, we all have seen the millions of posts saying: "I use Slash Dash only for Mobility!" The Super Jump change seems completely pointless to me, it´s way to situational to begin with, Zephyr has the superior version in every way and they are realeasing an directional "air mellee" move which outclasses it by default.... they even showed it in the same livestream, i mean come on, nobody at your studio noticed that Super Jump is completely unneccessary now??? Radial Javelin is ok i guess, it really depends on how effective the stun will be, but i´d still say that it´s just time to rework the Ability completely. It lacks in so many ways which this change won´t fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I completely agree! To not touch Slash Dash at all is the biggest mistake they could have made, it is (for me) the Trade Mark Warframe Ability and it´s complete garbage, i mean just the last few weaks have proven it more then anything else, we all have seen the millions of posts saying: "I use Slash Dash only for Mobility!" The Super Jump change seems completely pointless to me, it´s way to situational to begin with, Zephyr has the superior version in every way and they are realeasing an directional "air mellee" move which outclasses it by default.... they even showed it in the same livestream, i mean come on, nobody at your studio noticed that Super Jump is completely unneccessary now??? Radial Javelin is ok i guess, it really depends on how effective the stun will be, but i´d still say that it´s just time to rework the Ability completely. It lacks in so many ways which this change won´t fix. Agreed slash dash and super jump even radial javelin is out classed by other skills that are near enough just an upgrade to his skills. He either needs a total new skill set or the skill buffed right not just tweaks here and there So many people have proposed better and alternative ways to buff or a new ability. I hardly play warframe since the frost need and Excalibur and nux where my alternative frames but since Excalibur is being nerfed and they haven't even fixed nyxs physic bolts and the absorb being effected by friendly fire wasting energy. I read near enough only the forum for hope of listening to the player base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0ckwolf Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 11.10.14 - updated main post in reaction to the upcoming Excalibur changes and the Community Hot Topics 10.10.14! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Totally agree with You on that. Devs are not listening to us ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Agree, but please be patient and respectful of DE. There's no need to act in a kiddish manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Agree, but please be patient and respectful of DE. There's no need to act in a kiddish manner. Most are being respectfull but just stating an opinion such as saying they don't listen which is fine it's when people say there ..... Which no one is i don't think. But you got to admit there balancing of frames and weapons and stuff is not exactly gd balancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 All these proposals still have crappy damage not worth using past mid levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0ckwolf Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 All these proposals still have crappy damage not worth using past mid levels you talking about my pruposals or DE´s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmire Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 All these proposals still have crappy damage not worth using past mid levels Well, this appiles to all abilities that only do damage ( I'm looking at you Ember ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well, this appiles to all abilities that only do damage ( I'm looking at you Ember ) Yes, she needs a bit more utility to her skills. Especially something that will be a defensive skill of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 you talking about my pruposals or DE´s? All of them. I dont see DE mentioning damage at all, they just make ult more reliable. If you are to rework a damage ability then make it deal good damage, or its useless beyond midlevels especially vs armor and pathetic compared to well-moded weapons damage. I would give it fixed damage+ 25% of target hp to make the ability scale but not become op. Well, this appiles to all abilities that only do damage ( I'm looking at you Ember ) At least Ember can kill all the DE-Approved Content (below lvl35) with abilities alone. Ash is good up till really high levels (~100 lvl void) due to armor ignore and stacking bleed procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyk810 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Please take our proposal into consideration DE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenonox Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I don't like to post on the forums, nor do I want to. However, if DE really release these changes to Excalibur as is, they would have single-handedly destroy their mascot for this game and I would cease to acknowledge Excalibur's existence in warframe. They should just add Loki to the game's cover instead. Edited October 16, 2014 by xenonox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowen231 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It comes from literally hundreds of posts stretched across 3 major updates without hearing one word from DE about xcal. I'm telling you guys, they want him to die off because his prime is a founder's exclusive. That's the only logical reason. They even gave Ash's Bladestorm damage based on the hit counter. Something Slash Dash should have above all else and they've proven it isn't hard to do. That's funny lol, Excal has always been my favorite frame, and I've always wanted the prime (I'm newer player, by the time I started playing the bundle was gone sadly) because the shield recovery speed difference technically makes him better, but now that excalibur is going to be garbage, I in all honesty will probably never use him again because of the lack of utility and under powered damage skills. And in consequence, I've lost interest in excal prime lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaKnight Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 My best suggestion besides the suggestions in this thread is watch Devstream#39 and make our concerns over Excalibur clear. They may reconsider if the public agrees on this almost unanimously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyk810 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yea we don't want excal going to same road as frost did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowen231 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) My best suggestion besides the suggestions in this thread is watch Devstream#39 and make our concerns over Excalibur clear. They may reconsider if the public agrees on this almost unanimously. Where can we tell DE our thoughts though? From what i've noticed they don't seem to pay attention to the forums very much. Other than dev streams I mean, I'm occupied during that time. Edited October 16, 2014 by Flowen231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaKnight Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Where can we tell DE our thoughts though? From what i've noticed they don't seem to pay attention to the forums very much. Other than dev streams I mean, I'm occupied during that time. That's it in a nutshell--devstreams. Besides a choice few threads being noticed at a slim window of time DE deems convenient, we rely on our community moderators to make a stand as more influential members who can bring subjects to DE's feedback oriented crew, of which Drew, Megan, and Rebecca are most prominent as of recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawazat Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I like the super charge, with the new melee direction jump attack there really is no need for super jump. radial javelin is a weird one to me. yes it can miss annd yes the javelins dont do much damage but those two things are actually part of why it can be good. the javelins do damage per javelin and i have had plenty of occation where several javs have hit a single high level enemy and kill it....really kill it. ash is the only other frame that actually has an ult that can hit the same enemy more than once in a single cast (not counting ults that do damage over time i.e. mirage and banshee). if we give it auto targeting, it wont be able to do that anymore. I would be super happy with more punch through, damage, and a faster animation time - but really dont need additional damage if you can muster the courage to get in close on that one problematic napalm. definitely got my +1 overall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotJellyAtAll Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Maybe Excalibur wouldn't be so boring anymore if these were actually used... Nice work OP. Just an idea, what if Super Jump was directional, and could be used for huge horizontal jumps, with an AOE knockdown at the end? Edited October 23, 2014 by ImNotJellyAtAll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Maybe Excalibur wouldn't be so boring anymore if these were actually used... Nice work OP. Just an idea, what if Super Jump was directional, and could be used for huge horizontal jumps, with an AOE knockdown at the end? To be honest with upcoming aerial / directional melee - I see no point in having a skill like Super Jump in Excal skillset. Only that bang at the end with AoE knockdown would be of any use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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