(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I thought they were supposed to be trade only now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KalGerion_Beast Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Theoretically, yes. Apparently in practice, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NicoTheSneakyGuy Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah apparently yes, stock up while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether_SolRac Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) I'm still not sure why we weren't allowed to just have both. only sell the cosmetic ones in the market and have the arcane appear during alerts as before and everyone is happy... Edited June 11, 2014 by Ether_SolRac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KalGerion_Beast Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Because DE wanted to end helmets with stats, but sympathize with those who worked so hard to obtain them with stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RancidTurnip1603 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Because DE wanted to end helmets with stats, but sympathize with those who worked so hard to obtain them with stats. For greatest victory DE must rule with iron fist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether_SolRac Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 but honestly the stats were an interesting system of give and take outside the mod system. personally i would love to run around in the swindle helmet if i could keep the bonus i get from the essence helmet. maybe if the arcane stat choices were turned into a special augmentation slot outside of appearance we could get the best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaman1994 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 but honestly the stats were an interesting system of give and take outside the mod system. personally i would love to run around in the swindle helmet if i could keep the bonus i get from the essence helmet. maybe if the arcane stat choices were turned into a special augmentation slot outside of appearance we could get the best of both worlds. This, seriously. If DE would sell the Arcane augmentation for plat, but make the alternate helms available through alerts, many people would be perfectly happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether_SolRac Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) exactly! i know they dont want to sell stat bonuses, etc. and not have stats and appearances tied together. but somewhere along the lines they must have realised that one of the main reasons people don't equip helmets isn't just because they don't like the stats of the helmet, its because we prefer to maintain the stats of the other. Edited June 11, 2014 by Ether_SolRac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerelyARumor Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 My idea for this ''which was posted in another thread somewhere, is that they can use those ''market blueprints'' that they have allready the ones where if you use an arcane helmet it turns it into a non arcane helmet except the blueprint would be called Arcane Swindle essence variant- and would have the stats of an essence, but look like a swindle, and would take an essence and a swindle for ingredients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 but honestly the stats were an interesting system of give and take outside the mod system. personally i would love to run around in the swindle helmet if i could keep the bonus i get from the essence helmet. maybe if the arcane stat choices were turned into a special augmentation slot outside of appearance we could get the best of both worlds. Not really. Only a handful of arcane helmets were useful for any particular build, and the limited mod slots is what is supposed to make you make give and take decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octoknightx Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah apparently yes, stock up while you can. EW LOOK AT THAT NASTY PS4 MENU! It looks so clunky. Now this...is beautiful...btw this isn't my picture...random from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether_SolRac Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) My idea for this ''which was posted in another thread somewhere, is that they can use those ''market blueprints'' that they have allready the ones where if you use an arcane helmet it turns it into a non arcane helmet except the blueprint would be called Arcane Swindle essence variant- and would have the stats of an essence, but look like a swindle, and would take an essence and a swindle for ingredients i would be all over this. although i hope that the the swindle would be the non-arcane variant. i never managed to get the original swindle. in fact one of my main problems with the switch was that these helmets were obtained more through luck than farming or skill. so I'm honestly missing a lot of the helmets in the first place. although i guess for the most part i just have to let it go. i don't really mind getting the standards for my other frames since i didn't have them to begin with. but once you have helmets like Loki's essence or trinity's aura helmet, its hard to switch. Edited June 11, 2014 by Ether_SolRac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)USRevenge2 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Not really. Only a handful of arcane helmets were useful for any particular build, and the limited mod slots is what is supposed to make you make give and take decisions. like 1/3 of helmet stats were worth it, not sure why people think only 1-2 helmets are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 like 1/3 of helmet stats were worth it, not sure why people think only 1-2 helmets are good.because the big 3 for loki rhino and trinity. Their are others that are ok, but those 3 are pretty much the reason you have people who wanted to kill off stat helms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 EW LOOK AT THAT NASTY PS4 MENU! It looks so clunky. -snip- Now this...is beautiful...btw this isn't my picture...random from the internet. Fear not, both of those are going to disappear. >:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Fear not, both of those are going to disappear. >:) Can't wait lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Sinladar Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think the main reason DE took the stats off helmets was that they didn't want to be accused of being pay to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think the main reason DE took the stats off helmets was that they didn't want to be accused of being pay to win. Actually it's the opposite. Arcane helmets were available through alerts, as they always had been. Perfectly free and open - no purchase necessary. Now however, the only way for someone to obtain these helmets is by buying or obtaining large sums of plat and then putting themselves at the mercy of the trade market. In short, now there is no other way to get arcane helmets without getting platinum first. If there was ever a time to argue that they're cultivating a P2W system, now is the time rather than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Sinladar Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah your right it just opens up a different can of worms altogether. I mentioned the p2w because ppl did accuse DE of just that before the whole arcane helmet stuff. IMO warframe is still not p2w. Arcane helmets are completely unnecessary, if you buy plat to trade for one that's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Sylas_Grayson Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Well, hopefully Arcane helmet blueprints remain obtainable (even if only through Alerts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Looks like it is PS4 exclusive only :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I would assume this is only for a limited time, so get them before they are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I would assume this is only for a limited time, so get them before they are gone I assume some forgot to change the items in the randomizer for alerts lol. We will know for sure if it stops happening today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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