darthdart Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Why is it that every single time I play mobile d and defense now, there is always that one person who ignores the objective completely and gets just out of range for exp for the rest of the team and just camps a doorway and kills everything? Can't you do that a bit closer to the team so we all get experience? Do you not realize exp is shared when you are in range of someone else killing things? I'm gonna start ignoring these people if they die honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is an old problem buddy and can only be fixed by the devs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is an old problem buddy and can only be fixed by the devs i doubt it could be fixed by them, even if the hallway/door heroes earned no xp they would still do it for the kills and S#&$s and giggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps they find the game type really boring and do what they have to in order enjoy the Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychotoxin Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Welcome to Warframe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) The thread title is TOTALLY APPROPRIATE for the feels being felt when this unfortunate scenario plays out. I say the same thing every time... =/ Edited June 17, 2014 by sushidubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps they find the game type really boring and do what they have to in order enjoy the Game. At the expense of the enjoyment of the rest of the team. People like them are the reason blacklists exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdart Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps they find the game type really boring and do what they have to in order enjoy the Game. Perhaps they could do another mission type then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNsaNitySOZ Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 You mean you've experienced games without this? Maybe there is some lore in Warframe after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 The time-tested solutions are: A) chat "Oh, we aren't defending the Cryopod? Okay..." and then go join them until... B) when they die, don't revive them. As somebody else said, this issue has been around for a long time, and in all likelihood isn't going to be changed by DE. It's up to us, and these ways can get the message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps they could do another mission type then. Not really a possibility due to the way loot tables work. At the expense of the enjoyment of the rest of the team. People like them are the reason blacklists exist. As far as I am concerned as long as the mission is a success people can do what ever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefe Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Gather up some Nav Coordinates and make an Orokin Derelicts Defense key (or ask somebody in Recruiting chat for an invite to one). I've never gone back to Kappa for affinity since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps they find the game type really boring and do what they have to in order enjoy the Game. Well I can see that.. I mean in real life there ARE in fact many people who intentionally act like a$$hats and dip$#its in order to have "fun" and while it's not necessary these people certainly do exist. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 As far as I am concerned as long as the mission is a success people can do what ever they want. Mm, well, some people like having fun instead of watching a doorway hero do it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 In past Devstreams DE has discussed implementing a 'reputation' system, purportedly to deal with players just like the one the OP described. Sadly, this has either not received enough dev time and attention to be brought out, or else they've just s**tcanned the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SockBadger Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 In past Devstreams DE has discussed implementing a 'reputation' system, purportedly to deal with players just like the one the OP described. Sadly, this has either not received enough dev time and attention to be brought out, or else they've just s**tcanned the whole idea. I don't believe it's been forgotten, it was mentioned in more recent devstreams. But they also mentioned; either themselves or people on twitch chat at the time, that a system like that has to be made carefully because it can also be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 In past Devstreams DE has discussed implementing a 'reputation' system, purportedly to deal with players just like the one the OP described. Sadly, this has either not received enough dev time and attention to be brought out, or else they've just s**tcanned the whole idea. around the corner around the block, soon-ISH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Mm, well, some people like having fun instead of watching a doorway hero do it for them. Sigh... The doorway hero predicament in this game. In the end it's a matter of human nature. There are those who understand the objective and care about protecting it, while there are others who will basically leave it to others to defend it, while they go on a shooting spree. A year ago this wasn't such a big problem, but now it's in every mobile defense/defense mission I join publicly. I really think that it's a map design issue and spawning issue. In some ways I feel there's not enough of a "360 degrees zerg rush" towards the object to make it so that a split second of not being at the defense objective will mean failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pvt_213 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Does anyone know, roughly, the range that shared xp on kills cuts off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 While I don't agree with the notion of Hallway Heroes... If DE wanted to address this issue, they would have by now. This is an issue that has been kicked to death at this point. As annoying as those players behavior is, we also have to examine our motivations for being there. We joined a probably defense/survival PUG presumably for the extra safety, increased enemy count and chance at completing more waves for more interesting awards. The offending player is fulfilling their end of the bargain by increasing enemy count and presumably killing said enemies. Just play the field a bit to ensure you get that portion of the xp, if that's what you're after. Make sure to run by their territory to pick up loot in between waves. If they die, don't risk the mission rezzing. Education and Insults hasn't caused those folks to adjust their playstyle... DE hasn't put mechanics in place to stop the behavior... You will have to be content playing the hand you're dealt or choose to run those solo going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0xi0us Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Because people. I think that sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordio99 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Recently, this has been happening a lot more to me. Yesterday everyone but me ran away from the objective, so after the first objective was completed I went to get the loot, and while I was doing so one of them said "defend" so I quickly went back to defend the next point and as soon as I did they ran off again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DemonWolfPrime Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Why is it that every single time I play mobile d and defense now, there is always that one person who ignores the objective completely and gets just out of range for exp for the rest of the team and just camps a doorway and kills everything? Can't you do that a bit closer to the team so we all get experience? Do you not realize exp is shared when you are in range of someone else killing things? I'm gonna start ignoring these people if they die honestly. For what its worth, im mastery rank 10 and i had no idea that shared exp worked this way until now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diarist Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Lately I've noticed people outright going 2-3 rooms away and killing stuff. Not even just outside anymore, literally 2-3 rooms away. Like... what are you even doing? This is why I force myself to solo content now, and to be honest it really isn't all that fun. I feel like in earlier days people were more focused on teamwork. I don't remember this being such a prominent issue a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)xXJAXATTAKSXx Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 When i join a mobile d in a void, i normally look for parkour rooms because there are also those people that will rush through the mission without getting loot. This makes me equally angry so i do my parkour rooms and leave the mission up to them. : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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