Mastikator2 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 In politics and life it is bad to shut out the minority. In business no it is actually very right. If something is not wanted and would represent a waist of resources that could be placed elsewhere then yes it is sometimes a good idea to shut out the minority for being too vocal. What you have to say has enough value to get a response which does mean something. Let me give you an example you have 2 types customers at an ice cream parlor. Ones who love vanilla the others chocolate. They both know you can make the flavors better but you have limited resources to work on both request. As it happens you outsell chocolate to vanilla 10 to 1. Which side do you listen to? You treat us like a tiny insignificant minority, we are not. And warframe is not an ice cream parlor that can only afford a single flavor of ice cream (lol). Having several features is a good thing on its own right and DE is big enough to be able to spend some time on PVP too. See that word, too, nobody is asking DE to focus entirely on PVP, most PVPers are just as happy as PVErs to see new PVE content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Penta? PFFF....Heavy Calibur+ split chamber ogris with Zephyr/Excalibur. Dodge that EDIT: also firestorm =) Edited July 15, 2014 by Zarlockk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciaj613 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 You treat us like a tiny insignificant minority, we are not. And warframe is not an ice cream parlor that can only afford a single flavor of ice cream (lol). Having several features is a good thing on its own right and DE is big enough to be able to spend some time on PVP too. See that word, too, nobody is asking DE to focus entirely on PVP, most PVPers are just as happy as PVErs to see new PVE content. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1ples1xer Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 You treat us like a tiny insignificant minority, we are not. And warframe is not an ice cream parlor that can only afford a single flavor of ice cream (lol). Having several features is a good thing on its own right and DE is big enough to be able to spend some time on PVP too. See that word, too, nobody is asking DE to focus entirely on PVP, most PVPers are just as happy as PVErs to see new PVE content. OKay okay maybe there is like 10 pvp'ers... IMO they should scrap pvp before it ruins everything :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBorris Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The acronym PVP and the word community do not go together. Think about it. And on an honest note PvP is a community killer. While your sure to get the tutoring player with a high mmr who just wants everyone to get better every once in a while you are much more likely to get some a$$hole kid who brags about how l33t he is and how he pawned all over the noobs. Warframe isn't really a pvp game it is not balanced around it. If you think solar conflicts are going to change this then you have not been playing long enough. While your jazzed over the rails the rest of us will be playing with our dogs. Quite the contrary sir, the PvP community is in general nicer than the PvE community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1ples1xer Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Quite the contrary sir, the PvP community is in general nicer than the PvE community. Now this is complete nonsense, couldn't be more wrong imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 OKay okay maybe there is like 10 pvp'ers... IMO they should scrap pvp before it ruins everything :D Leave it. I, for one (despite the fact I do believe PvP in Warframe is somewhat incompatible), would be interested to see how this would run. Hell, I might even have some fun in it, or get something out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 LOL i can't wait to kill everyone complaining about PvP. Specially those who thinks PvP in this game is just about having OP weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 LOL i can't wait to kill everyone complaining about PvP. Specially those who thinks PvP in this game is just about having OP weapons. What is cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Now this is complete nonsense, couldn't be more wrong imo. Both communities have their share of A******s and friendlies, now stop whining at each other. Why are there even sides, anyway? Edited July 15, 2014 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djentlemenBehold Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 -snip- Inb4 dual kama spin spams and mareloks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 LOL i can't wait to kill everyone complaining about PvP. Specially those who thinks PvP in this game is just about having OP weapons. Why would the folks who hate pvp.. play pvp? I would imagine most of them would avoid it like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMasa Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 PvP is unviable in this game without a completely separate system. As an earlier post said... Conclave is a bone the developers tossed out... It is absolutely impossible to balance pve and PvP in this game... And to be honest, most others (if their is any complexity/divergence in character skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harazard Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Oh well here comes one-shot Ogris,Penta,Dread,Despair,Any OP weapon in the game ruining this game mode.I Hope DE has made weapons function diffrent in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 LOL i can't wait to kill everyone complaining about PvP. Specially those who thinks PvP in this game is just about having OP weapons. Don't get too cocky lol. Just because they don't play PvP doesn't mean they can't parkour like a champ and shoot like Zeus raining down lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arunafeltz Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Quite the contrary sir, the PvP community is in general nicer than the PvE community. Cute I have nothing against PvP personally(I actually enjoy some Conclaves from time to time), I just rather these two aspects stay separate. Dark Sectors.... whatever. As long as I can farm in peace, people can go on right ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auramaru Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) LOL i can't wait to kill everyone complaining about PvP. Specially those who thinks PvP in this game is just about having OP weapons. There's gonna be one hell of a wakeup call xD To those of you who think Valkyr hysteria will win games... no... it will just delay games. Good conclave players know how to wait it out. Had a Valkyr camping the energy once. I patiently waited for 15 minutes until he got bored and left. It's only good if you are good with it. Edited July 15, 2014 by Auramau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Don't get too cocky lol. Just because they don't play PvP doesn't mean they can't parkour like a champ and shoot like Zeus raining down lightning. Yeah we'll see. There's gonna be one hell of a wakeup call xD That's for sure. Why would the folks who hate pvp.. play pvp? I would imagine most of them would avoid it like the plague. As far as i know, the PvP mission will have a bigger impact on the enemy Solar Rail health. I'm pretty sure every alliance will have at least a few players running the PvP missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagoros Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The time to come out of the shadows has finally arrived, and we the underground hidden community of warframe are already one-step ahead in terms of PvP. So to those who have PvPed for awhile, pass on the knowledge and skills you have learned. And prepare for what we have been waiting for. See you on the field of battle. EDIT: I think I defined the wrong type of community... apologies! Sorry to burst your bubble, but re-watch the Devstream, and realize that most, if not all, of your 'Conclave strategies' simply won't apply in the coming PvP. From mods charging over time, to having AI armies and tower defenses. It is going to be a whole different game from the conclave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciaj613 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Sorry to burst your bubble, but re-watch the Devstream, and realize that most, if not all, of your 'Conclave strategies' simply won't apply in the coming PvP. From mods charging over time, to having AI armies and tower defenses. It is going to be a whole different game from the conclave. I'm talking about counter skills and mobility, not really just straight up modding :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I'm talking about counter skills and mobility, not really just straight up modding :P Well, we will be fighting in space, so control of mobility would be slightly out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagoros Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 There's gonna be one hell of a wakeup call xD To those of you who think Valkyr hysteria will win games... no... it will just delay games. Good conclave players know how to wait it out. Had a Valkyr camping the energy once. I patiently waited for 15 minutes until he got bored and left. It's only good if you are good with it. This. Whenever I see someone complaining about Hysteria, Pentas, etc.., I just roll my eyes, I don't even bother responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciaj613 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Well, we will be fighting in space, so control of mobility would be slightly out of the question. You may be right about that, one of my friends has good control with Zeph in the air so I'm probably gonna be at a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aciaj613 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Oh well here comes one-shot Ogris,Penta,Dread,Despair,Any OP weapon in the game ruining this game mode.I Hope DE has made weapons function diffrent in PVP. Ogris and Penta are pretty easy to dodge, atleast in my experience. Dread and Despair are actually kinda difficult to hit. You have to level up your mods during the match so even then these weapons would be out of the one-shot capability for a long time during the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 i hate to break it to u but there is no skill or knowledge required in warframe pvp, complete lack of balance and design for this purpose makes it so if you think there is then you must be really bad at all dedicated pvp games or not play many other games the enthusiasm is cute however so kudos for expressing yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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