Bushinji Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 All i can say is I AGREE WITH DE ! Now players can't mindlessy spam explosives anymore and have to make every shot count making those weapons actually require some kind of skill on theyr use rather than just go around "LOLOLOL, EXPLOSIONS EVERYWHERE, SO EASY TO WIN AND MAKE KILLS". People complaining at this are probably the same people that go around spamming Ults to every enemy they see and don't want any skill involved challenge but just play the game in the cheapest way possible. Get your gear and start using some skill (if you like to "lololol spam" you can always add an ammo mutation anyway). Oh and FYI, i use Castanas as secondary weapon but i agree anyway with DE about the nerf. Everyone has his own way to play the game. And that's perfectly fine. If you don't want to play with spammers, make private parties. If you want to have skill involved, don't use overpowered weapons. The reason with all these nerfs though is mostly because we were introduced a PvP mode. Have a PvP mode added into a - what used to be primarily be focused on - PvE game and it breaks your PvE experience. PvP in this game is simply the worst. Only thing it does (right) is break other peoples game experience. Please stop criticizing other players for the way they enjoy the game. That's why we have private groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Protesting on change is silly. But asking nicely DE will help you a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuikami Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 because I do my best to avoid them and succeed most of the time. if I get hit its my fault. My point still stands. ^ I'm with this guy, running around can save you more than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Are you running low on penta ammo? Can't find anymore one the battle field? THEN USE THE AMMO DRUM!!!! THE BEST IN AMMO DEFENCES!! IT CAN GIVE YOU MORE AMMO, WOW!!! IT CAN.....WELL THAT'S IT CAN DO.......BUT WOW!!!!! SO IF YOU NEED AMMO THEN GO TO YOU'RE NEAREST MISSION AND GET ONE NOW! AMMO DRUM! The best mod ever! Even using the maxed version, you'd get to 26 pieces of ammo, still unacceptable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion963 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 So it's the classical "the plans have been on the display since 2 months ago", my answer is also very classical "i had to go to the cellar"; If the only thing on my mind and hands would be paying attention to warframe, you'd be right. But because the ppl playing are having other occupations as well, being serious at this point is simply too arrogant. Also how does 3 pages of posts (let's say it would = 20 different ppl [i am very optimistic]) how does this relate to the 17k+ active players? It's not even 1% of those. Haha, exactly! But in this case, it's more towards "the plans have been on display for 50 of your earth years". The earthlings were the one who weren't part of the greater galactic society, not the other way around. They put a PSA on the official forums, and tweeted about it. And look again, it's not just 3 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSITH Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Guys I don't know about this protest cause De is trying to help balancing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Sure, many of us don't enjoy this nerf including me, but that's only because I want an easy way to get kills and too lazy to get off my butt and get off my safe spot to get more ammo or use other guns. I also saw this nerf coming ever since Orgris was released and I did have my fun for that long period of time, time to come up with a new way to get some kill without infinite ammo or find other resource like start running around and picking up those ammo on the floor or ream-ammo restore or better modding to keep the ammo up to the use. Oh hey guess wot? Vauban is not nerved YET :DDDDD I agree at the point, that if it's gonna be just one man protest, it won't influence anything. And don't even start this "it's free so take it or do not" especialy you and the like, who have invested money into the game, for you the game is not f4p any more. Btw. Vauban has been nerfed many times; No guarantee he won't be in the future. Besides it was specificaly vauban's nerfes that have stopped me from investing more into this thing. Edited August 15, 2014 by theclinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murderrrr Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Yep and I'm also in the school of players that have no problem with them. You know, because I do my best to avoid them and succeed most of the time. if I get hit its my fault. My point still stands. OPs only argument is "now I can't get to waves in defence that are past what the game is balanced for". Its not valid in any sense. The solution: stop playing, make sure everyone knows about it and QQ till my eyes bleed. I'm done here. I don't wish to be drawn into the vortex or be around when things start getting hostile. Everyone is repeating each other anyway. Evidently we wont come to an agreement. Your energy drains no matter if you get hit or not. Edited August 14, 2014 by Murderrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuikami Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I agree at the point, that if it's gonna be just one man protest, it won't influence anything. And don't even start this "it's free so take it or do not" especialy you and the like, who have invested money into the game, for you the game is not f4p any more. Btw. Vauban has been nerfed many times; No guarantee he won't be in the future. It's still free to play, I choose to pay 'cause I'm too lazy to farm, I want things faster than other people, and I want some cosmetic blings, 'the game itself' is still free to play, you didn't pay to get access to the game. Still, until Vauban get nerved he's still providing the easy modo til my heart's content before the next nerf anyway. Edited August 14, 2014 by yuikami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiloc1n Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) OP just doesn't quit. he is narrow minded, u cant argue with him and by the looks of this thread no one gives a S#&$ about his protest Edited August 14, 2014 by st1llborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnProdman Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The problem I have with this thread is the OP attempting to harm the game he's pretending to care so much about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayGooYa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Artists and game developers shouldn't be out to please everybody. It's what separates small developers like DE from AAA+ games that are designed by committee and are hyped for positive reviews. TX0001 is an acceptable casualty as far as I'm concerned. And his "protest" will fail to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENGAL41 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Even using the maxed version, you'd get to 26 pieces of ammo, still unacceptable for me. If you're still have trouble with that ammo, Ammo Drum not cutting for ya? THE LOOK NO FURTHER THEN!! THE TEAM AMMO RESTORE!!!! THE BEST IN RESTORE AMMO FOR THE WHOLE TEAM OF FOUR IT RESTORES YOU'RE AMMO, VERY NICE!!! IT HAS YELLOW COLOURS, PRETTY!!! SO IF YOU NEED AMMO AND AMMO DRUM JUST ISN'T DOING IT, THEN HAVE A TEAM RESTORE AND RESTORE YOU'RE AMMO TODAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 It's still free to pay, I choose to pay 'cause I'm too lazy to farm, I want things faster than other people, and I want some cosmetic blings, 'the game itself' is still free to pay, you didn't pay to get access to the game. Still, until Vauban get nerved he's still providing the easy modo til my heart content before the next nerf anyway. If you wanna fight high waves using lato, i won't be stopping you (well i would just leave your squad). I on the other hand am using what i am provided with (used to); Sometimes, for some mission i take boltor or something else where it's fiting. However, using something else than penta/ogris/etc. (launchers) on ODD or any other infested def is what i call ineffective (wave >15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Artists and game developers shouldn't be out to please everybody. It's what separates small developers like DE from AAA+ games that are designed by committee and are hyped for positive reviews. TX0001 is an acceptable casualty as far as I'm concerned. And his "protest" will fail to do anything. Even if you'd be right, i at least tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayGooYa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Even if you'd be right, i at least tried. I am absolutely right. And you are wrong to try. You've been told this repeatedly. You just don't like hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuikami Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) If you wanna fight high waves using lato, i won't be stopping you (well i would just leave your squad). I on the other hand am using what i am provided with (used to); Sometimes, for some mission i take boltor or something else where it's fiting. However, using something else than penta/ogris/etc. (launchers) on ODD or any other infested def is what i call ineffective (wave >15). I got to wave 50+ without using any explosive weapon, that's why I can prove nerfing the explosive weapon ammo barely even hurts. Get on my level before you comment about how the game can be played, kiddo. Edited August 14, 2014 by yuikami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 The problem I have with this thread is the OP attempting to harm the game he's pretending to care so much about. The game development is gonna harm the game in long term, my short term protest is gonna have no impact. Using metaphores, what i wanna is more like trying to pick a broken tooth before the whole head turns gangrenenous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I am absolutely right. And you are wrong to try. You've been told this repeatedly. You just don't like hearing it. By ppl who do not like trying. What an irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnProdman Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 my short term protest is gonna have no impact. Then what's the point of this thread? That makes this a spam topic. You just said it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I got to wave 50+ without using any explosive weapon, that's why I can prove nerfing the explosive weapon ammo barely even hurts. Get on my level before you comment about how the game can be played, kiddo. Right, kiddo... well if you are speaking the truth (and you were truly playing singlehandedly), then i applaud to you and i understand why you are so negative about my protest, what i don't get is what is your agenda here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Then what's the point of this thread? That makes this a spam topic. You just said it yourself. So now you're cutting my posts into shreds and make a jigsaw puzzle of it. Btw you got it wrong. Go and see my original message all points are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuikami Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Right, kiddo... well if you are speaking the truth (and you were truly playing singlehandedly), then i applaud to you and i understand why you are so negative about my protest, what i don't get is what is your agenda here. This is a forum open for discussion, once you post a topic like this in the forum, it's open for any member to comment and post their thoughts about your useless protest, especially when you aim to damage DE, this is what you get. Edited August 14, 2014 by yuikami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 If you're still have trouble with that ammo, Ammo Drum not cutting for ya? THE LOOK NO FURTHER THEN!! THE TEAM AMMO RESTORE!!!! THE BEST IN RESTORE AMMO FOR THE WHOLE TEAM OF FOUR IT RESTORES YOU'RE AMMO, VERY NICE!!! IT HAS YELLOW COLOURS, PRETTY!!! SO IF YOU NEED AMMO AND AMMO DRUM JUST ISN'T DOING IT, THEN HAVE A TEAM RESTORE AND RESTORE YOU'RE AMMO TODAY! I already posted as a response to some similar post. That won't cut it for me. At higher waves you would have to use too many of these, would ruin me in the long run. Unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX10000 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 This is a forum open for discussion, once you post a topic like this in the forum, it's open for any member to comment and post their thoughts about your useless protest, especially when you aim to damage DE, this is what you get. I'm not trying to damage anybody. This form of "language" is the only thing they (DE) could understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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