darthdart Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Wut? I found like 4-5 of them in one Saturn defense run ( tax was 9 % ) and got the all in the end. You would have gotten 5 or 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 It makes me laugh that 1% resource tax gets that first Orokin Cell/Neurode you find in that mission instantly. Never touch a resource taxed node. proof? I walk into resource taxed nodes and get all the resources I find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdart Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 proof? I walk into resource taxed nodes and get all the resources I find. So what you are saying is, even though you go to a resource taxed node, you still get all the resources you find. It's not taxed then is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)uso_Jus2SmooTh94 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yea I don't really play on dark sectors defence or survival whatever but only when there's a high pay conflict. Take their credits until conflict it's over and I never giving it back lol next conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yea I don't really play on dark sectors defence or survival whatever but only when there's a high pay conflict. Take their credits until conflict it's over and I never giving it back lol next conflict. Since all the big clans are close friends that will never happen until a clan outside of the friend circle attack but anyway it will be eliminated by the "friend circle" without using any battle pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) So what you are saying is, even though you go to a resource taxed node, you still get all the resources you find. It's not taxed then is it? As far as I can tell, the resources are not affected at least not by a tax that's less than 10%. I walk in, find 3 neural sensors, get 3 neural sensors. Credits, I need to be bothered doing the calculations for how the tax-works and I really can't be bothered till the weekend. I do dark sectors mostly for resources. Credits are farmed in Void, by rushing captures and exterminates. Edited September 12, 2014 by Semshol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuri99 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Once again, the problem with Dark sectors in their current form is the system is fundamentally broken. If you really want to stick it to these alliances, dont run dark sectors at all. Show DE how awful the system is by not participating in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdee Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) pvp is basically bull arms race, but even then, usually the team with more people/coordinated people win anyway also, the high taxes are because nobody bothers to actually defend a no tax node without getting paid Edited September 12, 2014 by weirdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawstar1982 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdei Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Once again, the problem with Dark sectors in their current form is the system is fundamentally broken. If you really want to stick it to these alliances, dont run dark sectors at all. Show DE how awful the system is by not participating in it no the problem with dark sectors are people with the entitlement mentality. They expect an alliance to work for them, using their own manpower/resources to fight for an area so they can use it. When that same alliance needs them to fight/defend a rail, they just turn their backs and ignore them. Eclipse took Sechura and told everyone its the community's node to lose and guess what, they got stomped hard. No one bother to fight for them, all the games I joined where against was CM members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuri99 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 no the problem with dark sectors are people with the entitlement mentality. They expect an alliance to work for them, using their own manpower/resources to fight for an area so they can use it. When that same alliance needs them to fight/defend a rail, they just turn their backs and ignore them. Eclipse took Sechura and told everyone its the community's node to lose and guess what, they got stomped hard. No one bother to fight for them, all the games I joined where against was CM members. I agree that the entitlement most players have toward dark sectors is a problem. However this doesnt change the fact that the system is still fundamentally broken. To be fair, a lot of people I know washed their hands of dark sectors when the DDOS attack happened during Ice's attack on Sechura. For me I saw the folly of dark sectors not with Sechura but with Romula. When clan ghost bear lost that newbie node I saw the 0% cheer squad as nothing more then people who shouted lofty words but wouldnt back it up with action. When dark sectors became actually broken was when it became an actual PVP match that effected PVE players. Dont get me wrong, I understand that theres a lot of players that want to fight each other or compete against each other. Its a good thing they got PVP oriented competition. However the part that is broken is allowing these competitive focused players to effect the experience of PVE players. That is what is fundementally broken about dark sectors but lets not kid ourselves, theres a lot of other issues with PVP and the dark sectors system in particular but they all pale in comparison to the fundamentally broken mechanics that allow PVPers to effect the experience of people that dont even participate in PVP. Until this fact changes dark sectors are and will continue to be fundamentally broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azizsan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Improvements will be made, patience my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashashou Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Improvements will be made, patience my friend. waiting and hoping doesn't help just inspires ennui i'm glad that the clan are locking the DS out - maby this will inspire DE to fix the entire system which has always seemed half thought out and some what pointless / creating a map that the whole point was to have your clan name on it for a little bit for a (relative few people ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeduSalem Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) 75% is over the top, if you would have to pay more than 50% tax in real life it would mean that you work to give your money to the goverment and not to sustain your life(style). Basically why I stopped caring about Dark Sectors as well. Just doesn't pay off to work for nothing. Also I'm not into PvP... so basically I'm locked out from doing anything against the tax rates besides not playing the nodes during peace mode in the first place so I don't help financing those high tax nodes. ^^ Edited September 14, 2014 by MeduSalem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdamnlobster Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 they are doing it to choke anyone who wants to credit farm to challenge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhat.lf Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Yeah... we know... Some people speculate that the alliances you see on the solar system are all working together behind the scenes to control the system. I kinda agree with what they hypothesise since the proof is right there on the star chart. To me it seems like they're having a game of monopoly... I want DE to make a version of Monopoly where the tiles where you would buy land are the Dark Sector nodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethkittin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I'd agree with removing the "taxes" aspect of it entirely because it just causes a lot of, mostly justified, hate for people... I deliberately avoid anything dark sector even though I sometimes play other shooting-based PVP games, because of the whole atmosphere... Corruption, flipping... and... banking, accountancy, fatcats arranging things amongst themselves to bleed everyone else dry... Just.. Loathsome. Unsavoury. I deal with these lizard-brained sell-an-orphanage/forest-to-redevelopment scum enough in real life, I don't want people to be taught this mentality by games too... Edited December 2, 2014 by dethkittin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)theelix Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Hello warframe players as you all may know we the players have been using the dark sectors for credit farming for our simple ugrading our mods or just to have credits for trading. 75 % on all the major credit farming areas It was ok when it was 15 maybe 20 that took a cunk off our credits that we get but not enough to not farm the area. Now we might as well farm earth missions for credit farming because now we make more there. HAHA. PS4 still has 5% tax. Sechura's at 5% and my alliance has owned it for... Too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethkittin Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 remove darksector from premises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This thread was dead for almost three months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ropefish- Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 the necros is strong with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIPREDATORII Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sarcasm. "NO WAY REALLY?" NEXT POINTLESS TOPIC ABOUT THIS SAME TOPIC COMING UP IN 5 MINUTES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIPREDATORII Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Dbl post. Oops Edited December 4, 2014 by IIPREDATORII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethkittin Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 remove darksector remove from premises -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-Skitz0 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Old post that dose not add anything new. Either suggest a way to fix/change/improve/remove Dark Sectors. Or take your arse to the battlefield and do it yourself. Anything else no one wants to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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