Zamio Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Why do people keep citing this when they whine about Limbo's appearance? What does that mean? The Warframes are highly advanced vessels of smash everything and burn it too. I thought Space Ninja was just a cute moniker. Exactly. We left Space Ninja's behind with Rhino, Loki and more. Space Ninja's was just a cool name. Not the theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiqalicious Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 This is what "Limbo" should of looked like in some sense and I'm fairly certain a reasonable amount of players thought the same. Well at least most of the Design Council did, considering the thread that was in those forums -which has been deleted; of course. *roll eyes* https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/41827-warframe-cabal/ Basing expectations on fan art is a bloody ridiculous thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabadath5 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While the word ninja is just a buzzord, warframes STILL had some sort of ninja asassin-ish looks to them before monsters such as Hydros or bird-frame came out. You can't compare the subtle and well integrates themes such as Loki's jester theme or Ash's bug theme to in your face poop like Vauban's or Hidro's respective themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 This is what "Limbo" should of looked like in some sense and I'm fairly certain a reasonable amount of players thought the same. Well at least most of the Design Council did, considering the thread that was in those forums -which has been deleted; of course. *roll eyes* https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/41827-warframe-cabal/ Meh. The design doesn't really look like a void manipulating frame to me at all. Looks more like a samurai warrior to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kainosh Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 That "Limbo" feel like a LARGE "Granado espada" injection. And I dont like it. Its like putting Disney characters it anime. Feels like parody rather than "gud stuff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Steve Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 So basically not liking something translates to it not belonging or fitting into the game.. despite the developer's who crafted everything within the game.. apparently disagreeing. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM209 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 How does anyone know what a real ninja looked like anyway? You are all too focused on the idea that an assassin would lurk in the shadows to remain unseen when a real pro would instead blend in with a crowd and look inconspicuous. Perhaps top hats were in fashion in Orakin society which would make it not flamboyant but rather appropriate attire. In the right setting not wearing one could get you noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optyk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Basing expectations on fan art is a bloody ridiculous thing to do. It was not full on expectation, but something more inspired I suppose. But, not expecting something to show up in-game, based off of fan suggestions, imo, is a tad ridiculous considering todays gaming market. AFK awhile, gonna go browse the Steam Workshop... Yeah I know, sounds bloody ridic right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Steve Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 It was not full on expectation, but something more inspired I suppose. But, not expecting something to show up in-game, based off of fan suggestions, imo, is a tad ridiculous considering todays gaming market. AFK awhile, gonna go browse the Steam Workshop... Yeah I know, sounds bloody ridic right? A fan-concept warframe is a very big request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabadath5 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) So basically not liking something translates to it not belonging or fitting into the game.. despite the developer's who crafted everything within the game.. apparently disagreeing. Okay. Anyone that has a well functioning pair of eyes can see how the new warframes don't look anything like they belong in the same video game as the old ones. But oh well there are people on these forums that will agree with the developers if they tell them that a wall that's actually white is neon green. To a point that its almost useless to debate things on these forums at ALL nowadays. Edited October 23, 2014 by Cabadath5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EetNotErn Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Anyone that has a well functioning pair of eyes can see how the new warframes don't look anything like they belong in the same video game as the old ones. But oh well there are people on these forums that will agree with the developers if they tell them that a wall that's actually white is neon green. Nice fallacy there. Just because people disagree with YOU and agree with the devs on this one issue does not mean they agree with the devs on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optyk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 A fan-concept warframe is a very big request. Yup it is. And I happen to like the new frame, looks jazzy-quality work indeed, just does not feel right. Its going to be the 'Like A Sir' meme frame of the year no doubt. But the overall direction does not imply any kind of "ninja" theme, or even a "combative"/"war"/"space" theme. He'd make a better Protocol Droid in SWTOR or villain NPC in The Secret World =P But I'll say again, something along those 'Cabal' design lines(not a direct 1:1 copy) would of fit better or at least been back on track to fitting in since theres one thing everyone can agree on, is that Warframe is no longer about Warframes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Steve Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Anyone that has a well functioning pair of eyes can see how the new warframes don't look anything like they belong in the same video game as the old ones. But oh well there are people on these forums that will agree with the developers if they tell them that a wall that's actually white is neon green. To a point that its almost useless to debate things on these forums at ALL nowadays. I can see where people are coming from, i'm not following at the heels of DE so please take your rude presumptions and get gone if you can't have a rational conversation about this. I think the unique design/concept is good. I like how he looks, a space-age magician who bends dimensions. That's why i disagree with people saying it's silly or "unfitting" when there's no set standard for what a warframe should be or look like, not that i've heard of from DE. They did after all, create the tenno, and are the source of all of the game lore. If they set a standard for warframe appearance before please link me to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) All the previous posts talk about something that is really different indeed : Warframe lost his old aura a little. 7 updates ago, it was much darker & mysterious. Don't believe me? Look at the tilesets : they're very bright & we barely use our flashlights. Some may even say that it's less violent(however, charge attacks & melee 1.0 made 80% of that feeling,because we had no automatic death & could cut people in half/send them flying whenever we wanted to. Now to reach the old gore you need maxed slash mods & weapons/ easy ragdoll stuff.) I'm sure 90% of people complaining about the eternal "ninja" debate won't reply anymore if D.E. implements other options than the rambo/run&gun/clear every room playstyle. Something more subtle...(see my previous comment here) Moreover (as I always say) : "Have you ever seen a ninja in space, to begin with? " Edited October 23, 2014 by unknow99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 -snip- Limbo was stated to be a "magician" frame with a hat. That has no hast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 All the previous posts talk about something that is really different indeed : Warframe lost his old aura a little. I think that's the nostalgia talking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzkyl Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think that's the nostalgia talking... Interms of tileset, a tad. The Infested tileset got very bright that it killed a tad of the menacing presence lurking in the ship. Ofcourse some would say it's too bright. When people say " we're no longer ninja" Have you ever seen a space ninja anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackShield Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 let my limbo his Tophat is fu awesome :D he needs a badass walking stil on first ability with that he does a melee fataility :O if you wanna play ninja here you go ninja gaiden ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0ubleFE Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Uh wait are we saying that we are not satisfied with an slogan?... our warframe life would be really better if it said "Warriors play free" or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 More like Space Bruce Lee FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zillarezko Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Why do people keep citing this when they whine about Limbo's appearance? What does that mean? The Warframes are highly advanced vessels of smash everything and burn it too. I thought Space Ninja was just a cute moniker. A ninja (忍者?) or shinobi (忍び?) was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan. The functions of the ninja included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, and open combat in certain situations. - Wikipedia Ninjas are always shown in movies and T.V. shows as silent stealthy killers. In reality most ninjas never even looked like what youd expect, many were farmers and workers and woiuld often work in the areas they ninja'd in. In other words you dont need to look like a ninja to be a ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I forever maintain that Warframes and Tenno are not the real-world Ninjitsu Stealthy Ninja, but the Westernized Unstopable Killing Machine Ninja (along say, the lines of Ninja Gaidan or Strider) seen in popular culture. Do they share elements of the former? Absolutely, but it is not the primary "ninja" source to be considered. Edited October 23, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeargantHaztagazpacho Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 That's it. DE I NEED A BANDANA, AN AMMO BELT AND MAKE ONE HALF OF MY HELMET DROOP A LITTLE. MAKE MY WARFRAME TALK WITH A FUNNY ACCENT TOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandwitchPrime Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Valkyr just cried her eyes out those guys dont understand that if you can clime walls and S#&$, you ARE a ninja, gawddammit, people these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrielColtan Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Why do apologists for Vaudeville frame keep trying to present the tired argument about what "real" ninja were? As if thet even defends Limbo. It does not matter what real ninja did in real life, people are talking about a style of LOOK. When people are thinking of space ninja they are thinking more in line with Predator, Gatchamam, Guyver, Zero from Borderlands or ZERO from Anarchy Reigns, the look that the frames for the most part, seemed more inspired by(along with the Darkness comic), because I want to maintain coalescing theme here of which also looks sleek and dignified. People dont care about actually dressing in an all black gi and mask like the mythical ninja stereotype of old, nor do they expect to be running around in damn kimonos and gis with feudal armor like authentic ninja such as Jubei or Hanzo. So yeah, quit pushing this willfully ignorant argument about "realism". Edited October 23, 2014 by UrielColtan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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