Initial Melee Weapons Through The Game

[1FFP1]

Hi, I'm new to this game and I want to know if it's viable to keep using weaker weapons like skanas or even heatsword (don't have it yet) until the higher levels. I mean, I like the way they look and I wanted to use them efficiently forever. It is possible to match a dragon nikana with mods,stances, etc?

melee is my focus in combat.

[TheErebus.]

Yes, every weapon is viable through the correct modding.

[VermilionBoulder]

Yes, every weapon is viable through the correct modding.

Said no one ever

[TheErebus.]

Said no one ever

I say it, many others also agree with me. 

No weapon is useless, they all have a purpose and through modding can at the very least be suitable for usage.

[VermilionBoulder]

I say it, many others also agree with me. 

No weapon is useless, they all have a purpose and through modding can at the very least be suitable for usage.

Except you do not take a skana to a 30 minute T4 survival run.

[TheErebus.]

Except you do not take a skana to a 30 minute T4 survival run.

I've done it. 

Use a crimson dervish, alongside the typical mods you'd put on a weapon and it worked fine. 

 

Also using an Ash helps alot thanks to the stealth multiplier.

[Keiiken]

Except you do not take a skana to a 30 minute T4 survival run.

 

I have taken it to a 30 minute T4D

[MegpoidBeetle]

Except you do not take a skana to a 30 minute T4 survival run.

Skana+Crimson Dervish+Channeling build+Blade of Purity actually makes it comparable to Dragon Nikana.

[dummifighter]

Skana+Crimson Dervish+Channeling build+Blade of Purity actually makes it comparable to Dragon Nikana.

BUT you have to offer a modslot to blade of purity, but i never liked dragon nikana in the first place. Looked cool on my ash but thats all

[Rakshal]

Yes, every weapon is viable through the correct modding.

And enough forma.

[TheErebus.]

And enough forma.

Forma isn't a rare find though, I get it quite often.

[Rakshal]

Forma isn't a rare find though, I get it quite often.

I know, I was just saying. lol

[xyLoneZ]

No matter what mods you put in your jaw sword, it will never be a dragon nikana.

[Duch99pl]

To be honest, MK-1 Bo and Skana are weapons you should replace when you can, theyre fine at lower lvl, but without good mods theyre useless, yes skana can be brought to high tier mission, but it won't be as good as Scindo prime, Dual Ichors, Dakra prime or Dragon nikana, and yes there is a special mod for skana, 

 

Heat sword can be good vs infested, but heat base dmg isn't really good, unlike electricity.

I would recommend for you ;

Scindo

Orthos

Bo

Fragor

Ether Reaper

Glaive ( alert weapon )

 

also a tip ; Don't pick up daggers. they suck for the most part

[Rakshal]

also a tip ; Don't pick up daggers. they suck for the most part

You must have missed the speed buff to Pointed Wind.

[Naftal]

Since you can put pretty much the same mods into every weapon. The weapon with lower base stats will never be as good as a weapon with higher base stats.

[(PSN)Magician_NG]

Most melee weapons are best modded for element damage.  However, dual cleavers and dual ichors are different.  Use crit mods (true steel + organ shatter) along with fury and berserker (don't use spoiled strike).  Chop...chop (crit damage), chopchopchopchoplolololol....

[bodyguard121]

ZORENS.No one mentioned it yet.I am really surprised.It is a good weapon and besides it is really fun to use it.İt can hit really fast.Always remember though with the right buid you can do ALMOST everything ALMOST.

[TheKingOfAllNoobs]

Pretty much what everyone said. Any melee weapon is viable, even beginner ones, as long as it's catalysted, formaed multiple times, but then you'd have to work up to there. A skana can be as good as a dragon nikana through proper modding and formaing. If you want to take a Skana to a T4 Survival, i'd suggest you mod it properly with elementals to make up for the weak base damage. I have soloed fought Alad V with a Skana and Braton. It's not impossible. But I'd suggest trying out different weapons for mastery purposes. You might find another weapon you might like.

 

Good Luck, Tenno.

Edited November 27, 2014 by TheKingOfAllNoobs

[xyLoneZ]

Pretty much what everyone said. Any melee weapon is viable, even beginner ones, as long as it's catalysted, formaed multiple times, but then you'd have to work up to there. A skana can be as good as a dragon nikana through proper modding and formaing. If you want to take a Skana to a T4 Survival, i'd suggest you mod it properly with elementals to make up for the weak base damage. I have fought Alad V with a Skana and Braton. It's not impossible. But I'd suggest trying out different weapons for mastery purposes. You might find another weapon you might like.

 

Good Luck, Tenno.

Viable =/= Comparable. There are many delusional people in this thread thinking that just because you bring a skana to a t4s, that makes it viable. I could bring an unranked skana and it wouldn't even matter since I'm killing the enemies with Primaries and Secondaries anyway.

 

Your skana can't be as good as your dragon nikana, PERIOD, because the base stat of dragon nikana is just a whole lot better than a dragon nikana. Otherwise, we would have seen people running with mk-1 braton in a T4S, after all, every weapon is viable through forma and potato, right? right? ... right?

[Gr33hn]

Your skana can't be as good as your dragon nikana, PERIOD, because the base stat of dragon nikana is just a whole lot better than a dragon nikana. Otherwise, we would have seen people running with mk-1 braton in a T4S, after all, every weapon is viable through forma and potato, right? right? ... right?

 

Dragon nikana doesnt get the 300% damage boost from Crimson dervish and it does not have the 100% damage boost from Bright Purity. The Skana can be made to do quite a bit of damage if you want to put that much effort into it.

 

That is a 400% damage boost, it would put the Skana on similar levels as D.nikana

[MegpoidBeetle]

Viable =/= Comparable. There are many delusional people in this thread thinking that just because you bring a skana to a t4s, that makes it viable. I could bring an unranked skana and it wouldn't even matter since I'm killing the enemies with Primaries and Secondaries anyway.

 

Your skana can't be as good as your dragon nikana, PERIOD, because the base stat of dragon nikana is just a whole lot better than a dragon nikana. Otherwise, we would have seen people running with mk-1 braton in a T4S, after all, every weapon is viable through forma and potato, right? right? ... right?

 

Total damage of my Dragon Nikana with Radiation+Viral build = 827

Total damage of my Skana with the same build, with Crimson Dervish x3 multiplier = 897

 

Looks viable to me.

[Naftal]

Dragon nikana doesnt get the 300% damage boost from Crimson dervish and it does not have the 100% damage boost from Bright Purity. The Skana can be made to do quite a bit of damage if you want to put that much effort into it.

 

That is a 400% damage boost, it would put the Skana on similar levels as D.nikana

It's more than that because the crimson dervish damage boost isn't additive.

 

But that damage boost is only for the normal E combo. Nothing for other more powerful ones like spin/slam/air attacks. That's the main reason why crimson dervish doesn't make single handed swords actually very powerful. Only the players who melee by spamming E and not using the better attacks think it's very powerful.

[MegpoidBeetle]

It's more than that because the crimson dervish damage boost isn't additive.

 

But that damage boost is only for the normal E combo. Nothing for other more powerful ones like spin/slam/air attacks. That's the main reason why crimson dervish doesn't make single handed swords actually very powerful. Only the players who melee by spamming E and not using the better attacks think it's very powerful.

But at least the other two combos are actually useful, Twisting Flurry causes knockdown and Coiling Impale prompts a counterattack finisher, which is useful for dealing with high-leveled humanoid enemies.

[xyLoneZ]

Total damage of my Dragon Nikana with Radiation+Viral build = 827

Total damage of my Skana with the same build, with Crimson Dervish x3 multiplier = 897

 

Looks viable to me.

IDK what food you give to your melees but your damage is way too low.

 

On a serious note, I learned it the hard way that when comparing melee weapons with different stances you shouldn't take them at face value.

My D. Nikana for corpus.

Result:http://imgur.com/a/Q7y9a

Normal attack 2.3k DMG - 7.2k DMG

Crit 4.7k DMG - 17.5k DMG

You would think that it's actually my combo counter that's affecting the damage, but NOPE. The highest non-crit damage that I got was from first attack actually(1 combo mult), which completely throws the charts off.

 

If you want to compare how viable skana is based on the face value, try comparing it with a weapon with same stance (Dakra P for example).

Skana VS Dakra P

Edited November 26, 2014 by xyLoneZ

[TheErebus.]

Viable =/= Comparable. There are many delusional people in this thread thinking that just because you bring a skana to a t4s, that makes it viable. I could bring an unranked skana and it wouldn't even matter since I'm killing the enemies with Primaries and Secondaries anyway.

 

Your skana can't be as good as your dragon nikana, PERIOD, because the base stat of dragon nikana is just a whole lot better than a dragon nikana. Otherwise, we would have seen people running with mk-1 braton in a T4S, after all, every weapon is viable through forma and potato, right? right? ... right?

So I'm delusional? That's nice to hear, at least I don't go for the most strongest weapons and give other weapons a chance.

 

If you can bring it into a match and work well with it, it means it is viable for usage.