Raithon07 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 OH YEAH! another thing to add... perfect world merger. just saying. this was the kinda crap that killed all of their games before. "its only 3 % it wont change the game!" my foot it wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnat6 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 OH YEAH! another thing to add... perfect world merger. just saying. this was the kinda crap that killed all of their games before. "its only 3 % it wont change the game!" my foot it wont. Perfect world has nothing to do with this and its not like they have any say in what DE does at all anyways. Besides DE has been making absurd grind + RNG + time walls since long before perfect world was even interested in DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoiiToori Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Impatient players and players that actually have lives. If you work a full time job no way in hell will you get Mesa for months unless RNGesus blesses you or you buy her If someone has a full time job, that someone can definitely spare $20. At least it's safe to assume so. The only thing that will prevent them is by thinking "I don't wanna spend $20 on a game." In which case that's totally up to them. Edited November 28, 2014 by AoiiToori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijinks_the_turtle Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I agree with this post, the amount of hoops we have to go through to even get a chance at Rotten Salad here is too much. Why can't we just put him on the nodes? I'm not as mad, but even the Limbo quest wasn't that bad compared to this atrocity. DE, please change this. It smells far too much like you're making it as tedious possible just to get people to pay for the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandr_ Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 A long time ago I heard a rumor that DE was trying to get rid of the grind and RNG, not prorogate it, guess I was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The community has the right to give feedback in anyway they choose so, as long as it does not violate the community rules. This is why the term 'feedback' is this broad in the first place. Thread cleaned, please try to remain on topic. Moved to a more appropriate subforum. Edit: Title Changed To Better Reflect Thread Contents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMagoo111 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do we know for sure if the Alad V key is reusable or not?If reusable, I think it is somewhat alright, although I'd prefer a more consistent way to access Nav coordinates. If it is not reusable, then I desperately hope DE considers some of the other options they have to making Infested Alad V accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) I agree. I love you DE but the wall you put Mesa behind is disgusting. Edited November 28, 2014 by ShadowCore67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GluttonyFang Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I completely agree. DE has been testing our patience with the increasingly RNG/Grindwall packed updates. However, it is up to us to convey to DE that enough is enough. We, too, have a limit as to how much we can endure. Do not dismiss me as a Free Player, because I have spend over twice amount of a full retail AAA game (60$) to support this game. And I am certain people that voice their opinions in this thread have spent much more than I have. It hurts my faith in DE more than my wallet to see them resorting to this kind of inconsiderate and tortuous method to coerce players to take out their wallets if they want to experience new content reasonably. I suppose all company has to head down pulling in profit blatantly sooner or later, it's just sad to see it happen every time, but inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarTemplar Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Vuaban's original method of acquisition. :p You where saying? Edited November 28, 2014 by LunarTemplar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Atroxium Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 1. We blame DE of things being too easy. 2. We blame DE for making them too hard. How can we solve this? Making the easy hard, or the hard easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijinks_the_turtle Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) 1. We blame DE of things being too easy. 2. We blame DE for making them too hard. How can we solve this? Making the easy hard, or the hard easy? Going the middle route. That's difficult to find. However, quests like Mirage's are the middle way. Edited November 28, 2014 by hijinks_the_turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumGTP Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Mesa is going to take months to acquire. I hate to say it but I'm not even surprised at this point. I've already given up on the Loki and Nyx Prime sets. Recruiting chat is a shadow of its former self and the chances to get the necessary parts are nil. It took me 54 tries at T2E to get the necessary Wyrm Prime BP. I'll keep playing but I'll just write off things like Mesa as a total loss. A lot of this new content that DE introduces is meaningless because it's so incredibly hard to get. I'll never buy a platinum pack again because DE has lost too much credibility with me. DE can continue down this path all they want. In the end they'll just lose any potential sales from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoga Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I suppose all company has to head down pulling in profit blatantly sooner or later, it's just sad to see it happen every time, but inevitable. Especially when they get bought out by a failing Chinese company looking to liquidate its player loyalty as quick as possible. I gave you a pass with the unbearable Archwing grind which gets worse by the update, but this has trumped it by a factor of 10. There are other games to play and I'm not going to sit here and get my playing experience completely #*($%%@ over by DE trying to milk a third the cost of a AAA game out of me just so I can play one more character without banging my head against a grind wall for 20 hours. I might come back in a few weeks to see if DE came to their sense, otherwise not worth my money and certainly not worth my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Going the middle route. That's difficult to find. However, quests like Mirage's are the middle way. Mirage's quest got complained about endlessly for the waitwalls, so I don't think that's the answer. Especially when they get bought out by a failing Chinese company looking to liquidate its player loyalty as quick as possible. A failing Chinese company who couldn't make business decisions for DE if they wanted to due to the way their agreement is laid out. Remember Vay Hek? This one's all DE as well, unfortunately. Edited November 28, 2014 by vaugahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I didn't mind Mirage's quest. Sure, it took time, but the lack of RNG in it more than made up for that. But THIS... This is just unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomyGordo Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Can a mod edit the title to "Problem with walls: Mesa is grindwall, waitwall, RNG wall" since that is much more clear. the thread isnt dealing with only a single wall or just about mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijinks_the_turtle Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Can a mod edit the title to "Problem with walls: Mesa is grindwall, waitwall, RNG wall" since that is much more clear. the thread isnt dealing with only a single wall or just about mesa I think you can change the title if you edit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomyGordo Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think you can change the title if you edit it. tried, wouldnt let me edit the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoracraft Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Fix cost of rushing foundry...make it scale with time and quality of item. Then ofc have a good alternate helmet and immortal skin and more accessories. Relying on selling the warframe and weapons itself is a failed attempt. This is the only way warframe will sustain itself. Do I really need to say that DE should take a page from tf2 on this one? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SazerTarious Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) All i am getting from decisions like these is (and i know some people won't like my response but its true) PWE I mean Elytron is behind brutal unplayable level and on top of that RNG is there too, but DE is doing nothing to fix it basically want u to buy it. (Scott's Response about Uranus: we'll let it be a bit more.) (According to DE: we listen to our players LOL YEAH YOU DO, keep telling yourself that) All archwing weapons are behind interception basically you have to hope that you're lucky enough for that .0000000000000002 drop chance. RNG wasn't enough so they decided to put alert system in getting warframe, i don't mind alerts / outbreaks but now we have to hope that when we are online we get outbreak and if we DO get it it's already not over. Here we're btchn about doing something about RNG but instead they are implementing more shty mechanics. Sorry to say this but after 15 my trust on DE is little to nothing. First 15, then 15.2 and now 15.5, I hope you won't have to grind for hubs next. Edited November 28, 2014 by SazerTarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 PWE One more time: Nobody involved in that deal (PWE wasn't one of the involved parties either) has enough influence to make DE do anything. This grindwall is entirely DE's fault, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xriborg Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Looks like DE is taking some lessons from PWE tho. I can't count the amount of times I ran Hek to get Hydroid. It's agitating. If DE thinks I'm gonna cave in and throw them some money to get this frame, they are sorely mistaken. All this does is remind me why I shouldn't give DE my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I am convinced that [DE] do not want to annoy players RNG walls. But still not found a better way to monetize their new releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchBlood Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Lephantis is the reworked golem Laphantis is J2. They are reworking J3 and placing him on Eris. Making him larger then Laphantis, according to whatever Dev Stream it was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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