GildedTuna Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) With this newest hotfix Mesas's peacemakers now fire at the speed of a base AkLex. Oh well. Edit for those that do not read the thread. Hold the LMB and then hold the RMB, She has a windup on Peacemaker but it fires insanely fast now. Maybe my finger and my mousewheel can take a rest now. Edited December 6, 2014 by LuxLo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Like rats from a sinking ship they go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 They still hit as fast as you can prett your fire button. The animation just doesn't play that fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FV-Wsocks Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Too bad she doesn't have 95% damage reduction or anything. Real garbage frame. Mastery fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzatuw Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Isn't the speed of her Peacemaker based on how many enemies there are or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GildedTuna Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 As nice as the damage reduction is it still doesn't change the fact that her ultimate is now easily one of the worst in the game. Not only that Shattershield reflects only projectile damage, unlike say Mirages Eclipse which stops 75% of all or Rhino's skin, or Valkyrs Hysteria, or Trinity, or Limbo. Point is one of the shining strong suits of hers was nerfed to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSnake Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 r.i.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobunigun Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) As nice as the damage reduction is it still doesn't change the fact that her ultimate is now easily one of the worst in the game. Not only that Shattershield reflects only projectile damage, unlike say Mirages Eclipse which stops 75% of all or Rhino's skin, or Valkyrs Hysteria, or Trinity, or Limbo. Point is one of the shining strong suits of hers was nerfed to the ground. Peacemaker isn't everything Edited December 5, 2014 by Nobunigun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Over nerfing, glad to see it is still alive and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ever4gotin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Bind shooting button to Free rolling scroll wheel. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobunigun Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Still works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robak220 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I got her today and... her only advantage is her look, its awesome. But her skills are really weak. She need buffs for 2,3 and 4th(its weaker version of Blade Storm...) ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GildedTuna Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Bind shooting button to Free rolling scroll wheel. Fixed. I've had it like that, it literally has a cap on how fast it can shoot now. (Fires at about the speed of an AkLex) Edited December 5, 2014 by LuxLo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromanicus Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 It used to be faster? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 her peacemaker fire rate also bind to FPS as well...the lower your FPS the slower you fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FV-Wsocks Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ikr. Why even play a frame if you can't spam your extremely powerful ultimate as fast as possible? Who even uses abilities 1-3 anyway? Ugh, Mesa is so bad now. Do the developers think that I actually want to play the game? Some fools. I obviously want to sit in one place and click rapidly. If I can't do that as fast as I want, what's the point of even playing Mesa? 0/10 will never use Mesa again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijinks_the_turtle Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 What's worse is the grind for her. Feeling pretty bad for those Mesa players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armouredhunter Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 what are you guys talking about? Nerf? all I saw in terms of Mesa in the build note is: Players can no longer gain energy while in Nyx’s Absorb or Mesa’s Peacemaker. Made various audio tweaks to Mesa’s Regulator pistols, in addition to some visual tweaks to Peacemaker’s effects. Fixed Daedelus Shoulder Plates not attaching to Mesa properly. Unless there was some unspoken changes it seems like it's just the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuva_Kebab Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 "Real garbage frame." You know, she's a frame that's about how you utilise her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
es.iiden Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ikr. Why even play a frame if you can't spam your extremely powerful ultimate as fast as possible? Who even uses abilities 1-3 anyway? Ugh, Mesa is so bad now. Do the developers think that I actually want to play the game? Some fools. I obviously want to sit in one place and click rapidly. If I can't do that as fast as I want, what's the point of even playing Mesa? 0/10 will never use Mesa again. she already had subpar skills as it were, and now she has a subpar ultimate. Shes a subpar frame behind a silly grind/wait wall. of course people arent happy with her >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceBlood Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I think you're confusing visual with functional here. Visually, yes, speed of an Aklex. Functionally I'm still wiping stuff off the map at an alarming rate of speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 what bothers me is the new sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrichion Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 There were some unspoken changes. Peacemaker now fires about as fast as a lex and does about half the damage per shot it used to. The sounds are different, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alif3 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Haven't had any issues with peacemakers still been cleaning up well into level 40ish corrupted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GildedTuna Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) Ikr. Why even play a frame if you can't spam your extremely powerful ultimate as fast as possible? Who even uses abilities 1-3 anyway? Ugh, Mesa is so bad now. Do the developers think that I actually want to play the game? Some fools. I obviously want to sit in one place and click rapidly. If I can't do that as fast as I want, what's the point of even playing Mesa? 0/10 will never use Mesa again. Okay I'm going to break this down for you nice and slow so even you can understand this. 1. Mesa's first skill Ballistic Battery only stores the damage you do to an enemies health. So if you shoot an enemy with 1million damage and it only has 100 health, it will only add 100 damage to the battery. Sure this would be good right? It only discharges once and fills up rather quickly so at best you'll be able to do maybe 4-5k damage with it. That is after its charged, aimed, and then discharged on ONE enemy. If you miss well, try again next time. (no splash damage) 2.Shooting Gallery gives a random buff to a teammate (only one at a time randomly) of around 50%. The secondary effect is something of a temporary radial disarm but is VERY limited as to how many it affects at once. All in all its pretty meh unless you're playing solo and even then it could be better. 3.Shatter shield. I have no real qualms about this. It's a great skill that reduces 95% of all PROJECTILE damage that comes your way. However if you happen to stand still and get melee'd well good luck.(Just wait theres more) 4. Mesas fourth skill peace maker, guess what, Requires you to stand still. With Max Transient Fortitude and Intensify, 85% Power Strength increase. I was doing maybe 2k-4k(With crits) a shot to grineer on Kiste. However the fast fire rate and acquisition of the skill made it viable. HOWEVER with this most recent hotfix the fire rate was nerfed to the ground. So as ineffective as it was before in say infested missions you might as well put a sign above you that reads "eat me" when you go into peacemaker. Since you are not able to rapidly take down the infested. Edited December 6, 2014 by LuxLo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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