AlphaHorseman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Change ! Redesign ! Frost cloth won't waving, Avalanche awkward skill, etc etc Oh Steve had some WIP about new Cloth Physics, it's going to look AWESOME on our Frost boy and Trinity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh Steve had some WIP about new Cloth Physics, it's going to look AWESOME on our Frost boy and Trinity! Alpha, I believe that is cause for celebration. Let us all meet up and mass-spam our Snow Globes with different Energy colors so we crash our games, and probably fry our computers! It will be GLORIOUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Alpha, I believe that is cause for celebration. Let us all meet up and mass-spam our Snow Globes with different Energy colors so we crash our games, and probably fry our computers! It will be GLORIOUS! THE FPS SHALL WITHER AND BE LOST IN A BLAZE OF COLORS AND SNOW EFFECTS! VICTORY TO THE CLOTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh Steve had some WIP about new Cloth Physics, it's going to look AWESOME on our Frost boy and Trinity! Yeah right man. Im sure our frost boy will look much better than our frosty boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--.B.--HARDCOREDAVE- Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think with frosts new augmet for icewave he can make an ice labyrinth or barricade :D I proposed an augment mod back then that might add more utility and versatility for Frosts main ability snow globe SNOW GLOBE AUGMENT: ICESCAPE Holding 3 while snow globe/globes are active will expand/explode snow globe creating a frozen landscape ranging ____ in game meters and effectively freezing and enemies caught in it or slowing down enemies that travel in the frozen terrain for ______ duration and dealing frostbite (ice DOT) damage. This augment mod is affected by range and duration mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think with frosts new augmet for icewave he can make an ice labyrinth or barricade :D I proposed an augment mod back then that might add more utility and versatility for Frosts main ability snow globe SNOW GLOBE AUGMENT: ICESCAPE Holding 3 while snow globe/globes are active will expand/explode snow globe creating a frozen landscape ranging ____ in game meters and effectively freezing and enemies caught in it or slowing down enemies that travel in the frozen terrain for ______ duration and dealing frostbite (ice DOT) damage. This augment mod is affected by range and duration mods. Haha, let's focus on fixing the old boy up before we start slapping augments on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Haha, let's focus on fixing the old boy up before we start slapping augments on him.Thats right fix frost up than some augments on him:D I think with frosts new augmet for icewave he can make an ice labyrinth or barricade :D I proposed an augment mod back then that might add more utility and versatility for Frosts main ability snow globe SNOW GLOBE AUGMENT: ICESCAPE Holding 3 while snow globe/globes are active will expand/explode snow globe creating a frozen landscape ranging ____ in game meters and effectively freezing and enemies caught in it or slowing down enemies that travel in the frozen terrain for ______ duration and dealing frostbite (ice DOT) damage. This augment mod is affected by range and duration mods. I don't think it should be augment, it should be a buff for frost ^_^ Edited January 13, 2015 by Xtoxinkilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapedBaldy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) OP Makes thread about our beloved Frost. Doesn't even know Avalanche is one of the strongest powers in the game when used for nuking. Cold damage isn't much if it's not some Corrupted... but the base damage is so high it makes almost any other nuke a joke in sheer numbers. As far as I've visibly seen... only Miasma and Rhino Stomp. One of the strongest nuke powers in the game that leaves him stunned longer than the enemies hit, okay. Bladestorm makes it look like a joke in the raw damage department. Radial Javelin has more range. Rhino Stomp comes with utility. Miasma scales with negative duration and strength and doesn't leave Saryn open. Prism has huge range and damage over time. Reckoning comes with utility and CC. World on Fire is mobile. Peacemaker has huge range. Tentacle Swarm does more damage to targets caught and sometimes outright kills them due to the weird ragdolls. Overload has potential to hit harder with more units and more electronic devices around from my understanding and it CCs. I think it's plenty weak from a pure nuke perspective. It's even worse when you compare it to some of the other 'pure nukes' because it's awfully lacking in the utility department. Only other nuke it's better than is Crush, and Crush desperately needs help. Edited January 13, 2015 by CapedBaldy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 One of the strongest nuke powers in the game that leaves him stunned longer than the enemies hit, okay. Bladestorm makes it look like a joke in the raw damage department. Radial Javelin has more range. Rhino Stomp comes with utility. Miasma scales with negative duration and strength and doesn't leave Saryn open. Prism has huge range and damage over time. Reckoning comes with utility and CC. World on Fire is mobile. Peacemaker has huge range. Tentacle Swarm does more damage to targets caught and sometimes outright kills them due to the weird ragdolls. Overload has potential to hit harder with more units and more electronic devices around from my understanding and it CCs. I think it's plenty weak from a pure nuke perspective. It's even worse when you compare it to some of the other 'pure nukes' because it's awfully lacking in the utility department. Only other nuke it's better than is Crush, and Crush desperately needs help. Haha, took the words right out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 If DE is having cloth design on some frames, than I should think frost need some redesign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMAGGOTxX Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'd love some new helmets for him. He looks too insect-like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'd love some new helmets for him. He looks too insect-like to me. A Frozen Crown helm? A Pun for the "King Of Defense" title he has? Haha, I could dig something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) I'd love some new helmets for him. He looks too insect-like to me. I like non primed frost helmet. But I think I would like a slight cahnge to frost helemet and for frost prime, make it same as the non primed frost, but it would be nice if its slightly or more different from frost. But perhaps it can be better than frost. Edited January 14, 2015 by Xtoxinkilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMAGGOTxX Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 A Frozen Crown helm? A Pun for the "King Of Defense" title he has? Haha, I could dig something like that! Oh helllllll yeah. Maybe take some inspiration from DS2 like the Rampant Golems? Cause let's face it, Frost looks like a beetle and Loyce knight had babies. I like non primed frost helmet. But I think I would like a slight cahnge to frost helemet and for frost prime, make it same as the non primed frost, but it would be nice if its slightly or more different from frost. But perhaps it can be better than frost. I'd just like 2 more alternate helmets period. I'll take almost anything at this point for him to not look the way he is. However, his performance is even worse than his helmet design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokusi Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Just don't touch my arcane squall! It's my baby. But yes more helmets would be a nice bundle to a rework all at the same time. And hell; since we are about to get cloth physics, how about a helmet that utilize the new physic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Oh ok. I agree that we shoukd have 2 alternate helemts. I do want to keep sqaull cause its a perfect design. But auaora looks like a toilet seat... so I think this needs a redesign. Edited January 14, 2015 by Xtoxinkilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMAGGOTxX Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Watch, when it finally comes time for hot topics, this thread isn't getting in. It mentions Frost lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical_Hellhound Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I agree that Freeze seems to do alot more damage than needed. But it has little use outside of headshotting a big headed enemy with an arrow. I definetly would prefer it the freeze didn't subside the moment 3 bullets hit the target. Even having it so that a cold proc applied for when they "thaw" would help. Ice wave I have mixed opinions on. I want more out of it as late game it's only really good for slowing enemies down which thank god they brought that feature back. I hated it when it would only do damage and nothing else. At the same time I don't know what could be done to it and still keep it "balanced" whatever that means to other players. i personally would at least say that affected enemies should be slightly slower than what they do now and ice wave having a slightly larger AoE. Snow Globe. The iconic move of Frost...I still miss the days of infinite health snow globe but I don't expect that making a return. and all the while I managed to get a single globe to survive a 20 second onslaught on defense by level 45 corrupted (at the time the duration lasted 29ish seconds) The biggest problem I have with snowglobe now besides it having both health and duration is that there is no indication that the globe with dissipate outside of the remaining duration. once that globe goes down everyone gets slaughtered. I still insist the globe doesn't have enough health on it just yet but for now I would really be happy if I can get some sort of indication the globe will soon dissipate because of heavy gunfire. Like a secondary counter below the remaining time on the globe telling the last casted globe's remaining health. Or if taking the aesthetic approach have cracks start forming around the globe as well and some sort of visual indicator the globe breaks like some dissipating snow and the sound of shattering glass. Although I would settle for the glass shattering noise and a health indicator. I complain of the lack of awareness for the globe health because I use the darkest shade of black from the smoke pallete to make the globe nearly invisible especially when standing in the middle of it. From there it's impossible to see the globe break especially if surrounded and your busy shooting the enemy out of the globe. Avalanche.....It needs to be a CC type move. no question about it. Anything involving slowing down the enemy drastically or stopping their movement alltogether. I don't care how. Avalanche as a damage move is useless above level 30 enemies. Also Avalanche needs to stop shattering enemies when I kill them with it. I like seeing whole frozen statues of them surrounding me during those times I get a glitch where they don't shatter at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XToxinator Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Watch, when it finally comes time for hot topics, this thread isn't getting in. It mentions Frost lmao. Yes it will come out. Once this becomes a very hot topic for DE, Frost won't melt, he will become more colder than ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) editing gone wrong :D Edited January 15, 2015 by tris1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yes it will come out. Once this becomes a very hot topic for DE, Frost won't melt, he will become more colder than ever! I have under expectation for it to arrive there if it does ill charge back and write I was wrong but doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1738 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 ya frost is in an awkward spot. one of the best in grineer/corpus/void defense mission, but in lack of other utility outside of defense. i tried my very best to make power strength frost work, but unfortunately it cant carry me in high levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMAGGOTxX Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 ya frost is in an awkward spot. one of the best in grineer/corpus/void defense mission, but in lack of other utility outside of defense. i tried my very best to make power strength frost work, but unfortunately it cant carry me in high levels I run power strength, and sadly his abilities can't kill past level 32 on Apollodorus... APOLLODORUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1738 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I run power strength, and sadly his abilities can't kill past level 32 on Apollodorus... APOLLODORUS. well, to be fair lvl 32 grinner is hard to kill without the correct elemental damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotommi Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I did most of my early on playing with Frost and it was good then. Now though? I wouldn't mind, heck I'd be happy to see an overhaul for Frost taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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