Mastikator2 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Warframe started as Main PvE, with PvP as something extra. This is neither true, nor relevant. Warframe started without PvP. That was over 2 years ago. PvP is the future of Warframe. That is a fact. Watch Devstream #46, you'll see that a lean WIP PvP has more potential than a fully fledged PvE game. Nobody's saying they shouldn't be separate worlds mind you, you can keep to your grindwall all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilerskull Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I would prefer if pvp could ease up some of those diluted charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm probably not going to play it much for a few reasons. 1. Ability spammers. (Rebecca, you got owned, no offence.) 2. People will simply use the best mods PvP allows, or else they will be gimped. That also means basically no variety, which is boring. 3. People will spam jump-kicks to knock people down and land finishers. 4. Some Frames have significant advantages over others, and some can abuse the nature of CTF greatly. 5. It's still going to be laggy as hell. There's more reasons as to why PvP in a PvE-oriented game is unattractive, but those suffice, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosyn Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Usually not a fan of ANY pvp systems and I have played with a ton... (I was always the guy that could beat any arcade game solo but against people I just blew it)...But I want to at least try this...and while that might not seem like praise to some,consider that I despise pvp and even dueling in dojos so much that I did them once and never again... This looks like something I can do and have fun with now...at least sometimes. (still won't be spending any length of time with it as I usually solo pve) Of course I'll have to wait and see how they do when it drops in...Not the first time I thought I'd like a system to have it fail and blow up in my face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm probably not going to play it much for a few reasons. 1. Ability spammers. (Rebecca, you got owned, no offence.) 2. People will simply use the best mods PvP allows, or else they will be gimped. That also means basically no variety, which is boring. 3. People will spam jump-kicks to knock people down and land finishers. 4. Some Frames have significant advantages over others, and some can abuse the nature of CTF greatly. 5. It's still going to be laggy as hell. There's more reasons as to why PvP in a PvE-oriented game is unattractive, but those suffice, for now. 1. Sheldon was using a dev cheat for infinite energy. lol. 2. There wont be any best mods, they will release weapons and frames to public play once theyre balanced. 3. Good luck trying to land a jump kick in warframe against other players. 4. I wonder what the balancing team is for? 5. Unless youre from 2001, its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) What can be done about hosting is quite simple, devs can take MOBA path. Session won't start until every player is not ready. Once everyone is ready game will determine best host based on up/down speed, pc and latency. Game needs quality algorithm for this, and I am sure that someone at DE can create this Edited February 7, 2015 by RoboDoge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastikator2 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 1. Infinite energy was not the reason he was killing her. The damage from Volt's ability is strong. She went down in single hits at times. 2. They specifically said some of our mods will be marked as usable in PvP, so you're wrong. 3. I do it all the time in Solar Rail Conflicts. 4. Should I show you my friend called Acrid? 5. You apparently do not play Solar Rail Conflicts that much. Can you do a better job at posting random accusations? I never said I dislike it, I said I simply will not play it much and pointed out reasons as to why. #counterargued 1. The only time she went down with single hits was when she was already heavily damaged. 2. They even showed a few PVP-OK mods. Maglev, Fast Deflection was the caliber of mods available. That should give you an idea of what they consider balanced. 3. Good for you, jump-kicking is still balanced. This was a trivial point. 4. They showed you the mods and weapons which were available and explicitly said things would be extensively tested before being allowed, and they would take things back if they found out after that something is OP. So the fact that you even mention Acrid like that's supposed to mean something is pretty good showcase the anti-PVP crowds warped minds. It compliments the selfish and rude attitude displayed by the antiPVP crowd in literally every PVP thread on this forum. And no, it's not "both sides are equally bad". 5. Solar Rail Conflicts aren't particularly laggy. All PVP games suffer from lag and Warframe isn't particularly guilty of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehgreg Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 5. Yeah I do, 60 fps, top MS I had was around 150, with absolute garbage hosts 500 ms, which is 1 in 50 games and I dont bother playing in such a rare occurence, just leave and RR, all good. Again, like the Devs mentioned in the stream, 1 player hosting 7 clients is something they will figure out. U16 brings player raids, Im pretty sure they will have it figured out for the most ambitious warframe update yet. I don't know where you're from but finding a non-laggy PvP in Europe region is impossible. I play Warframe on a high-end PC with ONLY Warframe installed and on a beast internet and I still haven't found a lag free game since PvP was launched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The new PvP looks real fun, besides seeing Rebecca getting one-shotted by Sheldon's Volt. I'll probably give it a shot once it releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dull Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Looks alright, not excited about the toxic community that comes with it. The meme kids on the forums are bad enough, now we'll have to see trash talk all day :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elele Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 AFAIK Call of Duty doesn't feature parkour. Actually COD Advanced Warfare does "parkour" pretty well. Other than wallrun, COD:AW all the moves (or their equivalents) Warframe has: slide, boost dodge (equivalent to WF's roll), ledge grab, vault, super jump, air dodge (similar to an air copter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Himari- Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Removed posts that would've further derailed the thread. Let's stay on topic, Tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 PvP is the future of Warframe. That is a fact. Woah there, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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