onemoonlight Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (...) Solutions: - Reduce Braton damages. (I don't have old and actual numbers) - Raise Vitality and Shield ratios + respective Vitality from Orbs. this brings us back to square one: flag carrier is impossible to kill before he runs off - that's why firearm damage was buffed up in the first place. Now two people can actually gun someone down before he copters off behind a corner. I can agree on Hp pickups tho, they feel really weak, and there's so few of them on the map compared to energy also, reducing only bratons damage, but keeping all the other primaries/secondaries untouched, despite having received the same buff? Braton is the most common and easiest weapon to get, obviously everyone gets killed by it the most - that would only mean people will go to latron, and then what? Nerf latron, because it kills everyone? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The TTK is now fine and you want to make it so we can only kill with abilities and melee again? Why? Except the Bo Prime. That needs a check. As for #4 Abilities, Excalibur's Radial Javelin needs a look at. No need to aim, just copter around to get four energy orbs, press 4, every enemy within the radius gets auto-targeted without any viable counter, done. If there is going to be auto-target without any viable counter, at least change the damage to be a damage debuff for all affected enemies for 4 - 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bows should be able to 1 shot, you have no idea how hard it is to hit a target in pvp with charged bow shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 The TTK is now fine and you want to make it so we can only kill with abilities and melee again? Why? No please, don't even think of trying to boicot me in revenge for bows nerf, I'm helping to get a balanced PVP. I'm not interested into ego battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 this brings us back to square one: flag carrier is impossible to kill before he runs off - that's why firearm damage was buffed up in the first place. Now two people can actually gun someone down before he copters off behind a corner. I can agree on Hp pickups tho, they feel really weak, and there's so few of them on the map compared to energy also, reducing only bratons damage, but keeping all the other primaries/secondaries untouched, despite having received the same buff? Braton is the most common and easiest weapon to get, obviously everyone gets killed by it the most - that would only mean people will go to latron, and then what? Nerf latron, because it kills everyone? :) Changes are made step by step, you can't change a chunk and hoping it will go well forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bows should be able to 1 shot, you have no idea how hard it is to hit a target in pvp with charged bow shot. DE nerfed bows, so it's their opinion bows shouldn't oneshots. Shall we still discuss if Man should go to the Moon or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakshal Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 No please, don't even think of trying to boicot me in revenge for bows nerf, I'm helping to get a balanced PVP. I'm not interested into ego battle. You didn't even come up with a counter argument, so I can assume that you want to make the Braton useless for the sake of being useless. DE nerfed bows, so it's their opinion bows shouldn't oneshots. Shall we still discuss if Man should go to the Moon or not? The same argument could be used for your Braton nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 I repeat, I'm no interested into kiddish discussions, go bother someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemoonlight Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 if you want to play defrag you can always download quake, because that is what it will turn into if you nerf firearm damage - people rushing for caps, because defenders cant kill runners in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Imma bring this thread to a close before it just turns into bickering. Lots of good feedback though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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