Abomablenoman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 60 waves. 7 formas. All pain. --- Wave 5 - Forma Wave 10 - Forma W15 - 5 Rare cores W20 - Forma W25 - Dakra prime bp (I think) W30 - Orthos prime blade (I think) The rest is in the pic. Usually not this bad for me, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grom-84 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I looked at yours screenshots guys, and almost cryed - it's me! me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngrazer Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I looked at yours screenshots guys, and almost cryed - it's me! me too! We all know that feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxysptlik Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Personally, I don't think this will ever change until people stop buying plat (or playing altogether). But, again, I'm posting in a thread about broken/screwy/insulting reward tables and forma dropping constantly in T4's. And again, my hope dwindles as this tunnel clearly has no light at the end. (Buy Light for 20p?) Pops up - *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GhostKing1337 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I stopped playing Warframe for a few months because of void dilution and now that I am back mainly becaise of events and see that this still has not changed I am considering stopping again this is just pathetic of DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)my_soldier Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 T3 survival 50 min: 3 fang p blades, 1 lex p barrel, 2 ember p helmet, 2 times R5 core pack and 2 times forma. I'm just going to let you guys guess on what min the 2 forma dropped, but here's a tip: I was farming for Nova p. chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GhostKing1337 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Oh no this topic is NOT dying if it does then DE will continue to ignore it can we do something to keep this issue known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Bowjangelz Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The issue has certainly felt ignored and even avoided when it came up on the Dev stream, but we won't let it die!! At this point it seems all there is to do is to keep the threads alive and have more people post about this topic on every Dev stream thread until the discussion comes up again and hope we can get a real answer. #StopTheRotationCForma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grom-84 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkyPanky Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 #StopTheRotationCForma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Ugh, I don't even want to touch the void if this is going to stay with the newly revamped Star Chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Bowjangelz Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Please DE, take out or lower the drop rate of keys in T1 and the o cells out of T3 & T4, and take the forma bp out of rotation c. Their drop rates should not outshine all part drop rates like how it seems to be currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volume Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 'd place a bet that they'll even have to phase out Mag Prime and what came with her before the void drop tables are finally reworked. Man. I wonder what the odds on that bet were four months ago? You were right. If only you could've bet plat on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Man. I wonder what the odds on that bet were four months ago? You were right. If only you could've bet plat on it! Hm ... I think I'll wait for the next devstream before I'll renew that bet for Ember Prime and her stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxess Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If this is not demotivating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaanVerdiano Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 If this is not demotivating... It's also fun if you end up with a bunch of uncommon cores and a forma if you run a full C rota on T3 Def. Why is that so? Because T3 Def has no rewards at all. I mean the A Rotation has A SINGLE PRIME PART, why would they think it's a good idea? B Rotation has two (or three?) and C has the Braton Parts, along with Forma and the Ash BP. That's, simply put, bullS#&$. Right now you either hit the jackpot by getting the Ash BP or you're wasting time because there isn't anything else worthwhile to get, it's stupid. I can understand that rare parts shouldn't be easily gained, but this is just ridiculous. Also shows how "diluted" void droptables are if they can pull things like this. They're not diluted, the rewards are just horribly placed with a few missions (especially things like T3 Surv) rewarding many good things while others just get S#&$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkyPanky Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 In a way I'm happy this topic is alive again.. but it also means that the break I've been taking from warframe hasn't released anything worth while for me to continue with it... the fact remains that this needs to be addressed now. Not later, not in the new star chart. Now. It has been going on for.. dare I say.. years? No matter how they 'fixed the void' something was always added in to dilute it farther, to make the fixing not fixed. Maybe someone can get DE to address this topic in devstreams.. would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Forgot to take a screenshot, BUT ... I found out that you can also see the rewards in your EE.log - so here you go, the aftermath of 40 minutes T3 Survival: 2805.209 Sys [Info]: CommitInventoryChangesCallback - 1, {"MissionRewards":[{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3},{"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/UncommonModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/UncommonModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3,"DailyCooldown":false},{"TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.25293132328308,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint"},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3},{"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/VoltPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/VoltPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false},{"TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.25293132328308,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint"}]}2805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Mission Complete Bonus: 256502805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Credit Tax: 02805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Battle Pay: 0 Forma Blueprint at both 20 and 40 minutes ... yeah, thanks for nothing. And now I wonder if "Rarity" means the drop chance for that specific item. If so, Forma BP alone has a 25% chance - and there are 10 (TEN!!) items total in rotation C, fusion cores included. SHELDON!! WE NEED TO TALK!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Forgot to take a screenshot, BUT ... I found out that you can also see the rewards in your EE.log - so here you go, the aftermath of 40 minutes T3 Survival: 2805.209 Sys [Info]: CommitInventoryChangesCallback - 1, {"MissionRewards":[{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3},{"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/UncommonModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/UncommonModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3,"DailyCooldown":false},{"TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.25293132328308,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint"},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/EmberPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1},{"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","TypeName":"/Lotus/Upgrades/Mods/Fusers/RareModFuser","UpgradeLevel":5,"ItemCount":3},{"Rarity":0.2,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/VoltPrimeHelmetBlueprint","TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/WarframeRecipes/VoltPrimeHelmetBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false},{"TypeName":"/Lotus/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint","ItemCount":1,"DailyCooldown":false,"Rarity":0.25293132328308,"StoreItem":"/Lotus/StoreItems/Types/Recipes/Components/FormaBlueprint"}]}2805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Mission Complete Bonus: 256502805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Credit Tax: 02805.211 Script [Info]: [EndOfMatch.lua GetRewardCreditsToShow] Battle Pay: 0 Forma Blueprint at both 20 and 40 minutes ... yeah, thanks for nothing. And now I wonder if "Rarity" means the drop chance for that specific item. If so, Forma BP alone has a 25% chance - and there are 10 (TEN!!) items total in rotation C, fusion cores included. SHELDON!! WE NEED TO TALK!! They need to remove Oroken Cells, Forma, and Fusion Cores not to mention balance all items to have a more balanced so we don't have items with what seem a 0.05% drop chance *cough* Ash Blueprint, Loki System *cough*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdingeling77 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So frustrating !!! :-((((( T3 Def - Rota C - Forma Blueprint Pleeeaaaaase fix !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaanVerdiano Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So frustrating !!! :-((((( T3 Def - Rota C - Forma Blueprint Pleeeaaaaase fix !!! I'm surprised you actually got multiple prime parts you can turn into ducats out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Onyx-Phalian Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So frustrating !!! :-((((( T3 Def - Rota C - Forma Blueprint Pleeeaaaaase fix !!! This shouldn't be a thing in Warframe. It's way too much of a grind right now where burnout is going to make a large portion of the player base drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendofvampires Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 So, I was in a team farming for ash prime bp, and we were after mission complaining how long we've each been trying and I said something along the lines of "it may be easier to wait for the void rework" and someone asked how that was going to work. If I recall wasn't it going to work like you have to go through like 5 various missions and at the end you get the part you want, guaranteed? What do you all think of that system? IDK how you would select what you're farming, but with different missions and tiles, less RNG, and no dilution, I think it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkyPanky Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I do not believe the part is 'garanteed' It's still a chance, and it looks like all mission types would be available. Just sometimes you ended up in the void.. sometimes it would look like a regular mission but with something special. Not much Info has been 'realeased' because Sheldon is till thinking it up, and it's not even a WOP atm. But, one thing they 'did' mention.. was that there wasn't going to be much with the drop tables.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkyPanky Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 https://youtu.be/t_sk3JFWCMw?t=1h3m25s Sheldon Address the Rotation's, I'm thankful Rebecca grabbed a questions, but I think most users will want to know how this 'voiding the void' will make things obsolete.. it still seems Sheldon is grabbing straws and doesn't have things down pat yet. I like the void tile set, and I don't think bring the "Tenno' out into the star chart will help with 'void fatigue'. PLayers get this 'void fatigue' then you have Orokins cells in T3/4 Rotation C.. and now they can't get a pick of the 6-7 items in that rotation. If Sheldon could give us maybe some more idea on what he thinks would be best.. or please make it a community questions. Let the players help decide how they want to farm and grind.. if you void the void and it doesn't fix any of these overly stacked, items.. the player base is still going to be very angry. Granted, most bases do get angry.. but DE does communicate with it's players more.. I'd hate to see more disappear because 1 questions wasn't asked to the players and was just.. amused. Hope this helps you and your friends answer the "Void Rework Question." Also.. boo people talking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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