Latrons

[Qynchou]

Can you please add a drawback to their insane fire rate, accuracy and damage? Its like a charged paris every shot with steroids.

[Qynchou]

No, they aren't that strong, refer to actual DPS numbers if u wish to stop being ignorant.

Right. I went from a neutral kd to a ~8.0 by switching to Latron P.

[Kashiki]

The thread I've been waiting for - Latrons are actually the most viable guns in PvP at the moment. If they had some sort of fire rate nerf, then their insane damage could be seen as fair. No need to use Assault Rifles when the Latron shoots half as fast and can guarantee you kills in two to five shots.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Kashiki

[Z1B1]

is it that bad in this balanced pvp ? i never played it because im not intrested, so is latron like the anti rhino rifle now ?

[zerogear5]

working as intended  9 times out of 10 a braton will kill you before latron at proper ranges.

[Kashiki]

is it that bad in this balanced pvp ? i never played it because im not intrested, so is latron like the anti rhino rifle now ?

 

It's an anti-Tenno rifle, to be more precise. It's anti-everything.

 

Not that it's bad considering the balance, but it's become an issue where people don't seem to use anything else.

 

working as intended  9 times out of 10 a braton will kill you before latron at proper ranges.

 

Is that counting that you only get headshots? Because a Latron can take you down from mid-long and lesser range without even having to score headshots.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Kashiki

[Z1B1]

It's an anti-Tenno rifle, to be more precise. It's anti-everything.

 

Not that it's bad considering the balance, but it's become an issue where people don't seem to use anything else.

 

so basicly you are saying it is synoid 1.0 ... in pvp XDD have fun

[Kashiki]

so basicly you are saying it is synoid 1.0 ... in pvp XDD have fun

 

Kind of, at the moment. There aren't too many hard counters to it yet. Give it time, though.

[Dojutrek]

Latrons are meant to be long to mid-range weapons, thus they have a power to match that role. Do note, that every map currently is short and mid-range, thus it excels in them or at distances greater than 10 to 15 meters. 

 

I've been using the Latron Wraith when on Cephalon Defense and Light Offense. It's really effective against an incoming Cephalon grab, since most of the time the target is coming in on a straight path and has minimal recoil so shots are easy to land. However, if an enemy can close the distance into short or melee range faster than I can line up a shot it renders the gun completely worthless. So it's not like it's completely effective against all targets, but due to the nature of the game currently it definitely shines in comparison to the other weapons.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Dojutrek

[Rakshal]

working as intended  9 times out of 10 a braton will kill you before latron at proper ranges.

This, Latron doesn't need a nerf, it is an effective long range rifle but at short range it looses out against full autos (assuming both players are equal in skill, which is impossible).

[Cleesus]

This, Latron doesn't need a nerf, it is an effective long range rifle but at short range it looses out against full autos (assuming both players are equal in skill, which is impossible).

^^

[elele]

Strafe and watch that Latron guy miss. 

[Auramaru]

working as intended  9 times out of 10 a braton will kill you before latron at proper ranges.

 

 

This, Latron doesn't need a nerf, it is an effective long range rifle but at short range it looses out against full autos (assuming both players are equal in skill, which is impossible).

 

Yeah, I try to use Latron up close but die everytime. Better used from a distance. Resorting to secondary or melee when up close.

 

This alone makes it fairly balanced.

(Also, Elele has a GREAT point. If you strafe, jump, or move in anyway... watch the bullets scatter and miss... unless pro-aimer is pro)

[onemoonlight]

*shrug*

 

fast rof weapons are easier and less punishing to use, and they offer more consistent results

 

not saying that latron is bad tho, but it's not THAT good

Edited March 26, 2015 by onemoonlight

[Aggh]

The real problem is that they upped the headshot multiplier to 2x on guns so you can spam for lucky headshots, which isn't hard with latron's rof+accuracy. 

 

 

 

This, Latron doesn't need a nerf, it is an effective long range rifle but at short range it looses out against full autos (assuming both players are equal in skill, which is impossible).

Unless you're talking latron wraith.  And if you can land even one headshot at close range you will destroy any auto user.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Aggh

[oinkah]

This, Latron doesn't need a nerf, it is an effective long range rifle but at short range it looses out against full autos (assuming both players are equal in skill, which is impossible).

Theoretically Latrons are just as useful in close range as they are in long range, if we assume maximum skill ceiling is reached. With aimbot accuracy they are almost as good as automatics. Compare that to other specialized weapons like shotguns, which have built-in mechanics that make them worthless beyond their optimal range. Latrons are most versatile guns at the moment. They completely dominate in long range, are good for mid-range and still work in the close range.

Edited March 26, 2015 by oinkah

[Burnthesteak87]

Aim is a matter of skill, which mustn't be looked at as a limit, because anyone can spend  time to become better.

Latrons ATM deal too much damage per single hit and can shoot too much fast. Becoming a dumb high damage shots spamming.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Burnthesteak87

[onemoonlight]

dumb high damage shot spamming will lose to a braton, grakata or a gorgon

 

and each of those 3 kept at a head level melts as fast as a latron kept at a head level and offers more free room to miss some shots

[Burnthesteak87]

Probably you aren't playing with a Latron then. Go and try it.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Burnthesteak87

[onemoonlight]

no

 

im playing against people that are using them

 

autos are still a more popular option, and players ALWAYS gravitate towards what's effective

[Burnthesteak87]

How should that discharge Latrons?

I can claim that too, I'm just seeing people with LatronPrime one/bishooting people.

I'm enough of Cheese playstyle fans hiding after a finger or fleebile arguments.
 

Edited March 26, 2015 by Burnthesteak87

[onemoonlight]

my argument does not discharge latron, my argument is that there are as effective options out there, as seen by the choice that players make

 

i dont have a latron, i still think it's fine

 

it's just that rolling around and slide shooting favors the guy with a full auto rifle

 

 

 

but lets say latron does get nerfed, and people will then run around with braton variants - you gonna ask for a braton nerf next? cause it's as effective as latron, if not more

 

oh wait, you already did, in some other thread, neeever mind

 

what's next after latron and braton? gorgon and grakata? :) those magazine sizes man, too strong

[Burnthesteak87]

That's called BALANCE, you fix weapons until everyone is fine. I think its an obvious thing. Probably you can't.

Do you have some problems in comprension and learning?

Edited March 26, 2015 by Burnthesteak87

[Rakshal]

The real problem is that they upped the headshot multiplier to 2x on guns so you can spam for lucky headshots, which isn't hard with latron's rof+accuracy. 

 

 

 

Unless you're talking latron wraith.  And if you can land even one headshot at close range you will destroy any auto user.

Those are assuming your opponent will hit head shots at close range. Not to mention missing is much more punishing for a semi automatic rifle in close range compared to a fully automatic rifle since you shoot slower and have a lower magazine size.

[Aggh]

Those are assuming your opponent will hit head shots at close range. Not to mention missing is much more punishing for a semi automatic rifle in close range compared to a fully automatic rifle since you shoot slower and have a lower magazine size.

Headshots are easier to land at close range.  Spam at around headlevel and you're bound to get at least one headshot.  Lower magazine size is meaningless now that they've added magazine warp in.  All the latrons are extremely spammable and have almost twice the damage as autos so they can afford to miss some shots.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Aggh