JohnMarkLee Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) GRINEER - 1 Galleon Fighters: - 50 Dargyn - 20 Shield Dargyn - 20 Hellion Dargyn - 10 Shield-Hellion Dargyn - 50 Ogma - 25 Dreg - 25 Lancer Dreg Crew: (Personnel on Galleon) - 30 Commanders - 100 Lancers - 100 Troopers - 50 Hellieon - 50 Heavy Gunners - 30 Drahk Master - 25 Seekers - 25 Eviscerators - 20 Scorch - 10 Bombard - 5 Manic - 5 Napalm Boarding: (Boarding parties do not take units away from garrison crew members) - 30 Boarding Pods (Containing 1 Heavy Gunner, 2 Lancers, 2 Hellieon and 2 Troopers each) - 20 Boarding Pods (Containing 1 Commander, 1 Seeker, 1 Scorch, 1 Drahk Masters, 1 Eviscerator each) - 5 Boarding Pods (Containing 1 Manic, 1 Bombard, 1 Napalm each) REPUBLIC - 1 Star Destroyer Fighters: - 50 ARC-170 Starfighters - 25 V-Wing Heavy Starfighters - 25 BTL Y-Wing Bombers - 50 V-9 Torrent Fighters Crew: (Personnel on Cruiser) - 1 Commander - 4 Captains - 200 Clone Marines - 50 Heavy Gunners (Equipped with Miniguns) - 75 Jet Troopers (Equipped with Jetpacks) - 50 Clone Snipers - 25 Heavy Troopers (Equipped with Rockets) - 50 Flame Troopers (Equipped with Flamethrowers) - 20 Clone Commandos - 20 Shadow Troopers (Jamming devices and Cloaks) - 20 ARC Troopers - 10 Blaze Troopers Boarding: (Boarding parties do not take units away from garrison crew members) - 10 LAAT Gunships (Containing 1 Blaze, 1 Commando, 1 Shadow and 1 ARC Trooper each) - 30 LAAT Gunships (Containing 4 Clone Marines, 1 Heavy Gunner, 1 Heavy Trooper, 1 Clone Sniper and 2 Jet Troopers each) - 2 (Containing 1 Commander, 2 Captains and 7 Clone Marines each) So who wins? Edited October 5, 2015 by JohnMarkLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Amaterasu- Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 So who wins? Disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmorphic_Wyvern Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Billy Mays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasumi- Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Grineer because Disney plays a copyright card and forces the Republic to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazel_The_Fallen Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't know. The sheer force sounds pretty equal, but I'd say the Republic have [much] more intelligence, and they'd outsmart the Grineer easily. Now another one:All of them vs 4 super decked out Tenno Edited October 5, 2015 by Azazel_The_Fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 I wouldn't know. The sheer force sounds pretty equal, but I'd say the Republic have [much] more intelligence, and they'd outsmart the Grineer easily. Now another one: All of them vs 4 super decked out Tenno That one tenno whos new to the game and walks and attacks slowly shall die first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandOE Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Manic goes invisible and invincible, and stays like that until he decides to pick up the Force. Then we gain a truly terrifying enemy. The end. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortonman Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I's say the Grineer. With their MLG aimbot skillz, they'd absolutely destroy the republic and their proto-stormtroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Manic goes invisible and invincible, and stays like that until he decides to pick up the Force. Then we gain a truly terrifying enemy. The end. :D Darth Manic shall be slayed by Grand Master Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost333 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Darth Manic shall be slayed by Grand Master Ash I ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE. *grabs Venka, Vectis Prime and Sonicor* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Definitely the star wars clones (they already work from superior genetic code) more firepower in star destroyer republic ships are more protected than the glorified grineer space segways. Edited October 5, 2015 by Morgax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 1 Darth Vader = Grineer lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Republic wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout751 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Do Galleons even have many guns on them? There's one tile where there's a big cannon, but that's just one tile. Meanwhile the Republic Star Destroyers are named that for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardianshotable43 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Dude.... The Galleon is like an ant compared to the Star Destroyer! except if all of the Grineer are [9999], then they'll win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Do Galleons even have many guns on them? There's one tile where there's a big cannon, but that's just one tile. Meanwhile the Republic Star Destroyers are named that for a reason. Well there are cannons in those Galleon tiles like you said. They would always be shooting at nothing though lel. Dude.... The Galleon is like an ant compared to the Star Destroyer! except if all of the Grineer are [9999], then they'll win The size difference didnt look too much apart to me, but what do I know I got asian eyes. ~_~ 1 Darth Vader = Grineer lose. True but wrong Era :P Edited October 5, 2015 by JohnMarkLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 True but wrong Era :P Uhh, they weren't called Star Destroyers during the Clone wars. They were cruisers or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentcheese Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I think the republic would win but it would be a sour win. in my mind the galleon would have most likely gunned down nearly all of the clone fighters and bombers by the end. the grineer would have launched their boarding party's into the venator and would have been defeated after the grineer lost the whole boarding party and the clones lost about 100 of their men. the inside of the venator would have been torn to S#&$ at this point. fires would be burning holes would have been blown in walls and an engine ractor may have been destroyed as well. then as both sides have little to no fighters left the galleon would realize it was loosing against the star destroyer and would ram it as it explodes. the end would be a republic win but their ship would have a gaping hole in it from the ram and 100s of clones would be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Uhh, they weren't called Star Destroyers during the Clone wars. They were cruisers or something like that. Its a Venator-Class Star Destroyer, I know my lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) One big problem i see here with comparing these two ships. The space ships in Star Wars are very well detailed, with lineart, numbers and interior views. Not only that but most of the common technologies in Star Wars are relative explained, hence we know limits and potential of it. From these source materials we know how big a Star Destroyer or Republic warship is. We know how many fighters they carry, how much crew and infantry they have on board and how many weapons they have. The space ships in Warframe are basicly all over the place with no official lineart, no official numbers and a totaly UNKNOWN interior, because the game randomizes the levels even on space ships. If you run through a Galleon you might occasionaly have 3 massive cannon rooms after another or you don't see any at all. Sometimes you can also have a u-turn in a Corpus ship with the windows to the outside not actualy showing the other part of the U. That means we have NOTHING to base any speculations about the potential of the Galleons on. The same goes for the infantry units. In Warframe enemies are dumber than a sack of hammers and it depends on their level how much damage they can actualy take. They also display no sense of tactics or even ranking. Enemies just rush at you in all kind of combinations. No NCOs leading squads, no COs giving orders over loudspeakers and no sense of squad setups. Which means we can actualy NOT use the game as a basis to judge how good or bad the Grineer are actualy in combat. We only have the trailers for that and in those they are all killed by a single shot, including from weapons like the humble Braton. They also once again just rush the Tenno like idiots with no sense of being organized in any way. So can a blaster rifle kill a Grineer in one shot? Or would they take a dozen plasma bolts before even a humble Lancer would go down? Do Grineer actualy make tactical decessions or do they just run into blaster fire all the time? We DON'T know. Meanwhile there is a ton of source material for Clone and Storm Trooper which can balance out their not so splendind portrail in the movies and cartoons. Actualy Clone Wars even gives the Clone Troopers some credit occasionaly. Though that brings me to a general problem with vs. threads like these. These are entirely different fictional universes with different technological limitations we are comparing here. The limits and potential of the technologies between these two universes are too different. For example. In Star Wars almost every ship can cruise around half the galaxy in days or weeks. In Warframe space ships can't even leave the old Sol System. Meanwhile Grineer use kinetic weapons which seem to have compressed space (pocket dimensions) for their magazines, have access to teleportation technology and make liberal use of cybernetics. Which puts technology in Star Wars to shame. In the end, i simply think these Vs. threads only make sense with settings where technology and vehicles are relative well explained. But Warframe is simply not fixed enough yet to use it for this. Edited October 6, 2015 by Othergrunty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 One big problem i see here with comparing these two ships. The space ships in Star Wars are very well detailed, with lineart, numbers and interior views. Not only that but most of the common technologies in Star Wars are relative explained, hence we know limits and potential of it. From these source materials we know how big a Star Destroyer or Republic warship is. We know how many fighters they carry, how much crew and infantry they have on board and how many weapons they have. The space ships in Warframe are basicly all over the place with no official lineart, no official numbers and a totaly UNKNOWN interior, because the game randomizes the levels even on space ships. If you run through a Galleon you might occasionaly have 3 massive cannon rooms after another or you don't see any at all. Sometimes you can also have a u-turn in a Corpus ship with the windows to the outside not actualy showing the other part of the U. That means we have NOTHING to base any speculations about the potential of the Galleons on. The same goes for the infantry units. In Warframe enemies are dumber than a sack of hammers and it depends on their level how much damage they can actualy take. They also display no sense of tactics or even ranking. Enemies just rush at you in all kind of combinations. No NCOs leading squads, no COs giving orders over loudspeakers and no sense of squad setups. Which means we can actualy NOT use the game as a basis to judge how good or bad the Grineer are actualy in combat. We only have the trailers for that and in those they are all killed by a single shot, including from weapons like the humble Braton. They also once again just rush the Tenno like idiots with no sense of being organized in any way. So can a blaster rifle kill a Grineer in one shot? Or would they take a dozen plasma bolts before even a humble Lancer would go down? Do Grineer actualy make tactical decessions or do they just run into blaster fire all the time? We DON'T know. Meanwhile there is a ton of source material for Clone and Storm Trooper which can balance out their not so splendind portrail in the movies and cartoons. Actualy Clone Wars even gives the Clone Troopers some credit occasionaly. Though that brings me to a general problem with vs. threads like these. These are entirely different fictional universes with different technological limitations we are comparing here. The limits and potential of the technologies between these two universes are too different. For example. In Star Wars almost every ship can cruise around half the galaxy in days or weeks. In Warframe space ships can't even leave the old Sol System. Meanwhile Grineer use kinetic weapons which seem to have compressed space (pocket dimensions) for their magazines, have access to teleportation technology and make liberal use of cybernetics. Which puts technology in Star Wars to shame. In the end, i simply think these Vs. threads only make sense with settings where technology and vehicles are relative well explained. But Warframe is simply not fixed enough yet to use it for this. Meh, enough lore to explain the Grineer for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Institute-Marksman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I think the Clone troopers have an advantage to begin with: their weapons are energy weapons(and thus more powerful), and their Venators have shields, while Galleons do not. It'd be a photo-finish, but in the end the Republic would win, probably by a scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsher Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am getting the feeling the clone commandos alone would F*** up that galleon but maybe that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarkLee Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am getting the feeling the clone commandos alone would F*** up that galleon but maybe that's just me But them Maniacs tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsher Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 But them Maniacs tho Did you ever play Star Wars Republic Commando? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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