AgentSkye Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I often wonder if RNG is actually random, or if it is based upon join number or something. It seems too coincidental that some people can get multiple "rare" items in runs back to back, and yet others can do 50+ with "the same odds" and get nothing. To me I honestly believe that RNG is rigged to stimulate the need for a market. IE some people will have no chance or next to none at some in game items with a much higher chance at other items, and vice versa. This in turn stimulates the need of trading and forces lazy people to buy plat. IIRC, it's seed-based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pharen Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 IIRC, it's seed-based. What do you mean seed based? do you mean my theory is accurate, and odds are in fact generated differently for different loot drops per player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSkye Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 What do you mean seed based? do you mean my theory is accurate, and odds are in fact generated differently for different loot drops per player? I could be wrong. It's possible that my info is outdated, or that it was never even correct. It's also been a while since I've dealt with this kind of thing, so my understanding has... faded somewhat, and I was never an expert. That said: sort of. If it does use seeds, each account would have a number or a set of numbers used to determine loot, so yes, it would matter who's hosting, and there would be some people with seeds that give them a lot of one thing and not much of another thing, at least for a while. But the same can happen with any other method of (pseudo)random generation; it's not something we can predict or exploit, and there's no logical reason to expect that any previously observed patterns should continue. Humans are incredibly good at pattern recognition--so much so that we tend to recognize patterns that are not actually there, or exist coincidentally. It's just luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pharen Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I could be wrong. It's possible that my info is outdated, or that it was never even correct. It's also been a while since I've dealt with this kind of thing, so my understanding has... faded somewhat, and I was never an expert. That said: sort of. If it does use seeds, each account would have a number or a set of numbers used to determine loot, so yes, it would matter who's hosting, and there would be some people with seeds that give them a lot of one thing and not much of another thing, at least for a while. But the same can happen with any other method of (pseudo)random generation; it's not something we can predict or exploit, and there's no logical reason to expect that any previously observed patterns should continue. Humans are incredibly good at pattern recognition--so much so that we tend to recognize patterns that are not actually there, or exist coincidentally. It's just luck. Yeah, it's why it's just a theory. I don't want to make a statement on something that I don't know for sure. But I have to say, it is quite coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSkye Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Yeah, it's why it's just a theory. I don't want to make a statement on something that I don't know for sure. But I have to say, it is quite coincidental. How many people play Warframe? I don't know off the top of my head, but there are enough that it's inevitably going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalsherman Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 7 runs for one blade here. Don't even have the other parts yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Reminds me of the "Hey there Kadala" Song That was awesome, the guy song it pretty well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syln Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I asked for it in the trade chat : buy 2 double kamas blade 25 pl/u got them, end of the story P.S. : FU rng :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 1 random run by random dude I PM'ed just so I can get credits... 1 Kama Blade. Never did another run though, was farming Trinity Prime... but now that she is cooking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 DE loves RNG. We hate RNG. DE does not listen. And adds more RNG. Story of warframe. Story of gaming. Players are more likely to keep playing a game as long as there is a carrot to chase. So uh... don't blame DE, blame the gamer for encouraging RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acidulant Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yeah, it's why it's just a theory. I don't want to make a statement on something that I don't know for sure. But I have to say, it is quite coincidental. I can almost guarantee you that RNG function will use some kind of seed to generate reward. Whether that is your user id, mission id, time, player names... etc etc etc. Not that it matters since we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugerMK1 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 6 runs, 1 blade. Got the Blueprint on the first t3 survival I ran with clannies. IT'S >>>RNG<<<!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pharen Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 How many people play Warframe? I don't know off the top of my head, but there are enough that it's inevitably going to happen. I'm not referencing it solely to forum users, I'm referencing it to the people I know. Which in this case is a far smaller test case. Inevitability works over large numbers, not small numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KushJones512 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm on 12th key myself for 1 blade. But it's fun right -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laysonbaal Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't see RNG as a bad thing. Imagine if everything you wanted dropped at 100% rate. You could finish the game in a few hours and wouldn't have anything to hunt for then. You'd just get bored of the game and quit, which would make the game itself bad because it would be too short/fast/boring. Devs can't implement things faster than you play them, that's why RNG and timewalls exists. But I guess you were unlucky, hope you get it next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xewkeryx Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 A good 73-ish keys burned between my group for one blade ...Time for the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Soul-9181 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Well after 50 keys in a squad with 1 blade; first one I did solo got the other. Typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)bLaiiSe_go_brrr Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Used 5 keys to get my 2 blades lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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