Numbsky1 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Please show me on this doll where the evil Ember touched you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ReV-Agent Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 there is definitly other frames that need buffs / tweaks more then ember, i mean she isn't in a bad spot now, unlike mag now who lives and dies by the usefulness of 1 ability now and the rest being almost irrelevent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Ember was one of the worst frames around. what she needs is a total rework, Stop talking such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Zura Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I guess OP needs a little good old spanking from Ember herself! I played Ember before she was buffed and she was still doing quite good. Accelerant is her best skill IMO. Just because you went on some Extermination mission and some Ember "stole" all your kills (this game is primarily PvE, for clem's sake), you suddenly have a lot of salt in your mouth and complain that she is broken. No. Just no. It may sound a bit harsh but I'm personally just sick of people complaining about these kind of things without actually understanding how a frame works. If you have actually played Ember for an extensive period of time and understand how she works you will know she is anything but broken. Edited November 4, 2015 by Susanooh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You do realize that they just removed the timer and changed how efficiency works, right? Fire is still S#&$ for anything armored/shielded and level 40+, which is just a longer version of "f**king everything" ( except infested, I guess. And they got massive health at higher levels along with CC and energy drain ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnViande Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 A thread about Ember being broken? Well, thank you, I now have seen it all. I can die at peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnOyLeeT Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 if ever ember need more buffs,..she needs dmg multiplier on WOF her dmg fall off quickly with in 20 minutes of survival then u need to constantly use accelerant and drain ur mana faster if ever u wanna buff dmg and use max blind rage it also drains mana faster,,, u cant even use max transient fortitude with out prime continuity coz its also drain mana fas.. the only thing that keeping ember user alive is that augment " fire quake" that knock down enemies but not killing it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vashyoung Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 low level problem... next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dartiel Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If we're going to nerf Ember, Nova should be nerf too lol. inb4 Ember and Nova 4 get LOS requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Ember has always had the identity of low level trash killer and Infested pest control.I don't see how she is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kihana Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I swear that 90% of these nerf threads are just rage post after getting their feelings hurt seeing another player end a mission with the most kills. Better nerf my Sancti Tigris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnOyLeeT Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If we're going to nerf Ember, Nova should be nerf too lol. inb4 Ember and Nova 4 get LOS requirement. dont get nova involved in this one ..haha ..this made my day ..gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skode Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 A buff was in order, Ember was one of the worst frames around. But was the buff...a little bit too excessive?? All you Ember players, i know you love her now but be honest, doesn't it feel a little broken casting world on fire just once and then watching everything die for the rest of the mission with no effort? Another of your whinge threads... She is much more viable now as the glass cannon she was supposed to be - she can set the world on fire but shes squishy as hell. As for WoF how do you mod it? It NEEDS a buff in damage so power yeah? Yet you also want efficiency and duration... the augment for CC too. Your basically have to focus an entire loadout around it and making her less squishy. Moral of the story is she far better now but nowhere top tier and lack of fire weapons in game still hurts her. Shes fun to play but hard to mod for and noobs will have nowhere near as such success with her as experienced fully modded players will. Ember Prime being vaulted also doesnt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahero Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Mesa's change was justified in the sense that it was to simplistic to hit 4, press Fire and just auto-target all enemies that came in range. Ember presses 4, retains full control over her regular weapons, can still move around, doesn't have to press Fire, and auto-targets all enemies in range even through walls. And while moving you keep picking up energy to keep going. Power and performance besides, it is a very simplistic ability much more than Peacemaker was, so surely it will need to get changed as well right? Edited November 4, 2015 by Terrahero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 exalibur is not better too..... u press 4 than m1.........that is really very hard to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)OMGITSNUKERXD Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 She isn't op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skode Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Mesa's change was justified in the sense that it was to simplistic to hit 4, press Fire and just auto-target all enemies that came in range. Ember presses 4, retains full control over her regular weapons, can still move around, doesn't have to press Fire, and auto-targets all enemies in range even through walls. And while moving you keep picking up energy to keep going. Power and performance besides, it is a very simplistic ability that will surely need to get changed. Mesa was auto botting a 360 degree mass radius with mass damage, as long as it was sustained with shatter shield and energy even on ceres she could god mode. WoF tickles high lvl enemies so you have to get the augment because if her fire doesnt stop them shes as good as dead - you can run WoF with full modded setup with likes of Primed Flow etc but shes too squishy and the need to make it a CC, long duration build hurts its ability to pack a punch. Truth is shes still bad idea to high tier missions vs alternatives but at least shes not in the bottom 3 anymore. I think people are so used to her being crap their hurting shes actually got a buff, is she a god on earth or mars? Yeah but even Rhino is down there... shes gonna still get wrecked on pluto, same as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4YR4 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Ember WoF really isn't about damage at all. You mod her for CC and damage is just a bonus. Get your facts straight. Ember is fine as is right now, her 4 isn't even remotely close to the OP-factor of other frames, she needs a careful playstyle and WoF with augment and max efficiency and range fits this playstyle well, disabling enemies so you can get close to cast high damage abilities. I think it's a great buff, and makes Ember viable enough for a large amount of mission/mission lengths. Indirectly, WoF being a strong CC is very good synergy with her 1/2/3 skills as well. If anything this change is a stroke of genius, you just fail to see it. Edited November 4, 2015 by V4YR4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SupeBoss Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Firequake augment changes everything. She's my new favorite frame, and has the best CC in the game. I have maxed efficiency, +15 strength, base range, and -17 duration. Redirection and vitality with handspring. Took about 4 for a after I forma'd for energy siphon, but she is definitely end game with her augment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vashyoung Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Ember has always had the identity of low level trash killer and Infested pest control. I don't see how she is a problem. yep agree, its like saying.. sniper rifle is broken, it can hit people within a mile radius... duhhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMenton Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Before OP goes any further into this seemingly nonsense-driven nerf-call thread, I have to ask: Why are you making this thread? What objective data do you have to offer regarding the subject? What subjective views do you have to reinforce your objective data? Because you literally said Ember ultimate was 'over-buffed' and provided nothing. Anyone could type the same crap about Excalibur for example, and without citing their facts most people would view them negatively. +1 @OP if you have .... come and answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kira4715 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) This is getting @(*()$ insane for a very long time She's needed a buff and now you want a nerf?!? Wow well wonder Who'll be next on the nerf train "choo choo nerf sarmuta" Edited November 4, 2015 by (PS4)kira4715 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGodKing Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I like how the OP is quietly lurking and reading the responses and realizing how wrong and petty he is. In the meantime, why don't we talk about Valkyr's Hysteria since technically it does break the game. But oh wait, it's OP's main frame so obviously that can't be broken. lol Edited November 4, 2015 by AxialBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yes, she's pretty easy going in low to mid level missions, but outclassed by pretty much every frame at higher levels. If anything is needed to be done, it's making her skills scale properly. One of the idea's I had for Ember to scale up, was being able to increase the damage of Fire Blast (fire ring) by shooting it with Fireballs. So each fireball could increase its damage by x2, for example. Skill synergy is always fun. Not to mention, she could become a good Frost partner. (The ancient Fire x Ice combo). Snow Globe > Amplified Fire Blast around it > Inferno Snow Globe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobermann92 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 She is good now. You need the firequake augment in the void because world on fire doesn't kill lvl40-50 heavy gunners and bombards so after 25-30 min in t4 surv the ember isn't DPS anymore, she is CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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