UnbeBleeder Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 But DE, the big thing here is when is the Lord Booben getting a revision? He's slowly moving down that "trash bin frames" list and he's without a doubt my favorite. Im also curious what people think should happen to his abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ev.00 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 well personally i think they should get rid of bounce cause it's pretty useless unless your messing with other players. i don't know what to put in it's place but hopefully something better then bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 What needs reworking? He's still CC king. Maybe some tweaks on certain abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 It's not useless. It's just that people don't know how to use it! You can use bounce to keep enemies off the control panels when doing interception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryme Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 What needs reworking? He's still CC king. Maybe some tweaks on certain abilities? Bounce. Tesla is also a little weak and could do with some utility effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaxillian Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think Tesla should get a higher proc chance and Bounce doesn't need to be replaced but instead tweaked since it got bettered in one of it's most valued traits of sending tenno into the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Tesla would benefit from the snowglobe treatment: Only X many, infinite duration (still has so many attack charges) but throwing them on top of each other stacks their damage and charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryme Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) I think Tesla should get a higher proc chance and Bounce doesn't need to be replaced but instead tweaked since it got bettered in one of it's most valued traits of sending tenno into the air. Bounce is redundent to both bullet/double jump, and Repelling Bastille. The majority of its use now is to troll other players. Frankly, if abilities were still mod cards, I'd unslot and sell it without a moments hesitation. It should either be scrapped, or DE needs to re-enable killing enemies by punting them off a cliff/into the void. Edited November 6, 2015 by Ryme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaxillian Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Bounce is redundent to both bullet/double jump, and Repelling Bastille. The majority of its use now is to troll other players. Frankly, if abilities were still mod cards, I'd unslot and sell it without a moments hesitation. It should either be scrapped, or DE needs to re-enable killing enemies by punting them off a cliff/into the void. Yeah, though, it does still have some cc uses but they're not that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaFragolino Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 It depends, are you asking for a revision, a rework, a change, a buff or a nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)a salsa wizard Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Should definitely get rid of bounce, it is so ineffective and now with parkour 2.0 completely useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbeBleeder Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Tesla would benefit from the snowglobe treatment: Only X many, infinite duration (still has so many attack charges) but throwing them on top of each other stacks their damage and charges. ooo I like this. The only time tesla was actually viable was back when tesla link infinitely stacked. Although I completely understand why that got nerfed. It depends, are you asking for a revision, a rework, a change, a buff or a nerf? Nerfs and buffs are rarely the answer, but a rework of his abilities, mainly tesla and bounce(perhaps bastille could be more?*) *Not sure what more would be but, I think making dudes float is a bit lack luster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T_ravenis Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 My crew uses bounce at the end of LOR, we throw like 50 on a console so it can't be hacked. That's about the only use I've ever seen for it outside of trolling though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody1special Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 There will be time for a hundred indecision and time for a hundred visions and revisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkSector Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) He's slowly moving down that "trash bin frames" list No he's not. He's an amazing frame for CC. Please don't "rework" Vauban, as rework is DE's word for nerf. Edited November 6, 2015 by Suncobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastorius Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Vauban "rework" will involve having to first stick a Tesla on each enemy you want to entrap. Bounce will be removed and replaced with an ability called Charge; using Charge will deploy a Tesla coil-type device which arcs to each enemy with a Tesla stuck to it, readying them for entrapment. At that point, you can use Bastille and/or Vortex and they'll work as usual, but only on enemies that have been Tesla'd and Charged. Edited November 6, 2015 by Kastorius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The thing with bounce is that one bounce isnt very useful. But when you lay down 50 at once, its a minefield for your enemies and its the ultimate corridor lockdown. Place 20 on consoles in interception, and the enemies have an extremely difficult time hacking them. Best of all, its unaffected by duration but instead by uses. So u can set up traps and forget about them until you need to use it. Same with telsa. 1 or 2 balls doesn't do much. Its when u get to the 10s does the cc proc quite frequently and is useful. Honestly, if they get the eleytron treat for these 2 skills..... Vauban screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Bastille and Vortex are fine IMO. Increase shock proc chance on Teslas, maybe even a stunlock if you throw it on an enemy's face. Bounce is... Well, I'm not sure. It's fun. Kind of annoying. Also needs to be spammed to be useful. But, still, fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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