Banjong Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I love trinity so much that I actually have 3 trinity frames per build. Somehow trinity DE cant let trinity go without their hate, she was never broken or OP in the first place. The only love DE gave her is when they actually made her a prime and I believe they didn't even want to they just did it because they are forced to. Why cant they just leave her alone and brake her? I already stopped investing on this game because its not worth it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCat Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Banjong said: [...] she was never broken or OP in the first place. [...] Ehem. 20 seconds of unconditional invulnirability in the past was brocken. Just as brocken as 99% damage reduction was, or the current energy battery mode. Even now the "only 75%" are not that bad, because there is no need to bomb yourself with a glave anymore. She is still the best support frame we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_Rid Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) EV still encourages mindless spam of abilities. As well as meta builds and team comps built around exclusively that. Edited June 26, 2016 by Ivan_Rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiosGX Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Banjong said: she was never broken or OP in the first place.  HAHAHAHAHAHA HAA@HHHAHAHASSDFS D TDEGDYF Wow. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachester Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Banjong said: she was never broken or OP in the first place Come on, dude. It's okay if you don't like the changes they made to her, but you don't have to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soketsu Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Ivan_Rid said: EV still encourages mindless spam of abilities. As well as meta builds and team comps built around exclusively that. as if nerfing will change something to that so called "issue" 4 hours ago, Banjong said: I love trinity so much that I actually have 3 trinity frames per build. Somehow trinity DE cant let trinity go without their hate, she was never broken or OP in the first place. The only love DE gave her is when they actually made her a prime and I believe they didn't even want to they just did it because they are forced to. Why cant they just leave her alone and brake her? I already stopped investing on this game because its not worth it anymore. cause too strong for the regular mission, many player cry about OP she was on every abilities the only thing i admit is that her bless heal is so strong that no one could really challenge trinity in this role, i'm just not ok about nerfing her on two side in one row, we really should wait a little week/ month, the time that raid players give their feedback but for what i've heard, they still manage to do their raid so not a problem maybe one time we will get another main heal that trinity, maybe the full reworked oberon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnccs215 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Soketsu said: as if nerfing will change something to that so called "issue" cause too strong for the regular mission, many player cry about OP she was on every abilities the only thing i admit is that her bless heal is so strong that no one could really challenge trinity in this role, i'm just not ok about nerfing her on two side in one row, we really should wait a little week/ month, the time that raid players give their feedback but for what i've heard, they still manage to do their raid so not a problem maybe one time we will get another main heal that trinity, maybe the full reworked oberon You do realise she is still Raid material, right? Just not "let's make a level 200 bombard's damage negligible" material. as no frame should ever be. And yeah, nerfing helps a lot with preventing the meta cheese, whose fundamental part is infinite energy. fix that, and pizza spam, and you can actually think about reworking the energy system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soketsu Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 24 minutes ago, tnccs215 said: You do realise she is still Raid material, right? Just not "let's make a level 200 bombard's damage negligible" material. as no frame should ever be. And yeah, nerfing helps a lot with preventing the meta cheese, whose fundamental part is infinite energy. fix that, and pizza spam, and you can actually think about reworking the energy system. yes since i said the raid people successfully complete their raid ^^ but i said again the energy rework will be at least a very looooooong way and I don't think that the game need this right now, but it is just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastia Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Come on she was OP, with the nerf she's still the best healer, she's still one of the most recruited warframes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_Rid Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Soketsu said: as if nerfing will change something to that so called "issue" Yes, I am 100% sure that this will shift current meta for t4def or Draco, if you want a concrete example. If AoE spammers (Sporeryn, RJlibur, Banshee) will have to build for energy efficiency they will lose either str, range or duration, may be will even have to use survivability mods, and if they lose enough sustainable killpower the stationary ability spamming would become inferior to right, proper, I would even say fair, play - which is a mix of using abilities, positioning and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soketsu Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Ivan_Rid said: Yes, I am 100% sure that this will shift current meta for t4def or Draco, if you want a concrete example. If AoE spammers (Sporeryn, RJlibur, Banshee) will have to build for energy efficiency they will lose either str, range or duration, may be will even have to use survivability mods, and if they lose enough sustainable killpower the stationary ability spamming would become inferior to right, proper, I would even say fair, play - which is a mix of using abilities, positioning and shooting. you know some player can solo that things, without trinty EV neither using a single tenno school ? it's for that I don't know why it's will change something beside not allowing average player to do that in "ez pz mod" to and the raids become harder Edited June 26, 2016 by Soketsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbabenali Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 10 hours ago, Banjong said: ...she was never broken or OP in the first place... Come on, dude you make it way too easy. A everflowing walking battery with overshield bonus or perma invincibility for the whole team are not OP? And ppl are hating against Valky and Wukong these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipputer Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Soketsu said: you know some player can solo that things, without trinty EV neither using a single tenno school ? Your argument is akin to saying, "you can kill Sortie Kela de Thaym with a Braton Prime therefore the Tonkor is not overpowered." There is a lack of understanding between the difference in solo play versus team play of which there is a huge one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soketsu Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Chipputer said: Your argument is akin to saying, "you can kill Sortie Kela de Thaym with a Braton Prime therefore the Tonkor is not overpowered." There is a lack of understanding between the difference in solo play versus team play of which there is a huge one. yeah team fight there are more ennemies to fight a the same time (25% per players last time I checked) no, it's not that I do not understand what I do not understand it's why taking time to work on something who will change nothing instead of stuff like the full rework of oberon, making other ship worth the price (not only for the eyes, but efficiency in battle too)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IsanjiYoo Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I like the change, and my mate who plays as Trinity agrees.. now the only thing he hate, is random ppl who just /care a stroll too far away. Also Oberon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)KickassNinja14 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 PLEASE CHANGE TOPIC IT IS VERY MISLEADING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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