Why Vile Acceleration over Speed Trigger?

[DEATHLOK]

Dread build:

 

He's using Vile Acceleration. The card reads ×2 fire rate for bows. Speed Trigger is the same for bows. Why is Vile Acceleration better, when it also reduces damage?

There's a hidden buff to Vile Acceleration that makes it favorable? I'm genuinely stuck trying to understand why one ×2 is better than the other.

Thanks, and stay awesome!

[[DE]Momaw]

Speed Trigger is +60% speed.

Vile Acceleration is +90% speed.

The difference is noticeable with bows.

[at35z]

He probably prefers it because it gives +30% fire rate at max rank.

And that damage reduction is just not that big of a deal for Bows.

People use Vile Acc on Simulors as well.

[Kthal]

The damage reduction from Vile Acceleration is additive with Serration, so effectively reduces it by one rank. Losing one rank on Serration for the gain in fire rate/draw speed is definitely worth it.

The "x2 for bows" is for all fire rate mods (including negative fire rate mods), which have a double bonus on bows. That means Speed Trigger is +120% draw speed and Vile Acceleration is +180%.

[-N7-Leonhart]

12 minutes ago, DEATHLOK said:

He's using Vile Acceleration. The card reads ×2 fire rate for bows. Speed Trigger is the same for bows. Why is Vile Acceleration better, when it also reduces damage?

There's a hidden buff to Vile Acceleration that makes it favorable? I'm genuinely stuck trying to understand why one ×2 is better than the other.

Thanks, and stay awesome!

It's very simple. When you think of -15% damage, what comes to mind first? -15% of the total damage? Not quite. It's actually 15% damage from Serration. So it will be like Serration will give +150% instead of +165%, which translates in around -6% total damage.

For example, if you have a weapon that deals 100 damage per shot, with a maxed Serration it will go 265 damage per shot, and if you add Vile Acceleration that will turn into 250. I would say there are lots of cases where +30% fire rate is worth more that the ~6% difference there.

[DEATHLOK]

I've been reading the descriptor incorrectly for years. What it means is that bows have DOUBLE the percentage increase. Wow.

I need to spend more time with the wiki and less time with the game!

You guys are the best!

Edited August 20, 2016 by DEATHLOK

[(PSN)lhbuch]

I use it in continous weapons as well, the danage reduction is largely compensated by the fire rate increase