SeaUrchins Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) On 11.01.2017 at 11:16 PM, Kidkilla said: For example, the only time I see Loki is on sortie spy missions running a max invis duration build, but I also see a lot more Ivara also running invis. It does not illustrate that Ivara is better for spy missions, it only shows that most people are horrible at them (which is why DE had to remove alarms on vault's front doors), so they need to rely on permanent invisibility and ability to walk through lasers without triggering the alarms. Players who are more familiar with spy tiles can get the data resorting neither to invisibility nor to Limbo rifting/Ivara infiltrating. Edited January 15, 2017 by SeaUrchins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I see loki's in all sorts of Sortie missions and typically have to pick the useless little buggers up repeatedly until they eventually go afk in a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HammadOArab Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Either way though, someone out playing Warframe loves a frame some people might not consider desirable. I can see loki be used in much more ways than just spy missions on invis. A rework is all that should be done to the lower frames. Itll take time, definitely, but worth it. Thats like getting rid of Limbo. Biggest Meme-Frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Im sorry but Nidus is beyond trash level on non endless missions. So what you really asking is what frames being used in endless should be retired for Nidus, well in terms of similarities in team utilities Id say Inaros is the cloest you can get, and I think Inaros should retire Nidus for his overall superiority of not needing to stack up before being useful. Plus the CCs are more flexible, and the healing is way more on demand and heal so much more. The only upside for Nidus is that one damaging ability, but again I run covert lethality on my Inaros, which means at some point in the endless mission my scripted kill will out kill Nidius‘ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Shining caliber Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I'm waiting eagerly for the limbo rework. I love Limbo's concept but he is just too niche to use outside of sortie rescue missions. Just make it so we can pick up items in cataclysm and i think that would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 3:16 PM, Kidkilla said: For example, the only time I see Loki is on sortie spy missions running a max invis duration build, but I also see a lot more Ivara also running invis. Are you new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfPowerOfWant Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Would love to cast permanent invisibility on all things Infested. wish they would have pre-cycled nidus abilities into oberon or titania Edited January 16, 2017 by OfPowerOfWant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboticApplesWithLasers Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Sounds like a good Idea, maybe not with frames- seeing as those have a monetary value associated with them, but for abilities as a whole, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidkilla Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 16 January 2017 at 3:23 AM, RoboticApplesWithLasers said: Sounds like a good Idea, maybe not with frames- seeing as those have a monetary value associated with them, but for abilities as a whole, sure. On 16 January 2017 at 3:18 AM, OfPowerOfWant said: Would love to cast permanent invisibility on all things Infested. wish they would have pre-cycled nidus abilities into oberon or titania Both right - Nidus should have either happened a lot earlier or powers reworked into existing frames (But we are where we are). And powers/abilities need a review. Don't get me wrong (which judging by some of the posts, people have), I like the diversity in WF. It means I can pick a frame, ability package and loadout to suit my mood on any given day, but like most people I'm not blind to how some frames do very similar things due to said ability package. I only used those examples because they're usually the most common (in my limited opinion), it certainly doesn't mean that those frames should be elevated/removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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