Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 i just noticed this because of the grey bar thing. Has this been in the game from the start? Cause that kinda defeats the purpose of blast. All that blast proc essentially does is stretch out the fight. Can anyone else confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Devinee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 wrong subforum and blast proc is for cc and it deals dmg before they fall down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Devinee said: wrong subforum and blast proc is for cc and it deals dmg before they fall down what forum should this go in? I put it here cause this isnt feedback. And the question is about an invulnerable phase as the mob gets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Devinee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Mak_Gohae said: what forum should this go in? I put it here cause this isnt feedback. And the question is about an invulnerable phase as the mob gets up. https://forums.warframe.com/forum/38-players-helping-players/ for any game related questions and i never payed much attention to it if they were immun because they usually stay up pretty fast if they are not slowed. but i would say its like before the grey healthbar thing came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Devinee said: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/38-players-helping-players/ for any game related questions and i never payed much attention to it if they were immun because they usually stay up pretty fast if they are not slowed. but i would say its like before the grey healthbar thing came out. isnt that board just for tips? Anyway, this got me thinking... is this the way it is for every attack that knocks mobs down? How many bullets have we wasted shooting things as they are getting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ChuckMaverick Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I knew that enemies recovering from blast procs were immune to further blast procs until they got up again, but full damage immunity seems a bit stupid. Definitely worth more testing. Also, on the topic of subforums, I've always thought it was odd that if you strictly applied the rules there'd be virtually no posts in GD at all. I don't see a problem with this one being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ChuckMaverick Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mak_Gohae said: Anyway, this got me thinking... is this the way it is for every attack that knocks mobs down? How many bullets have we wasted shooting things as they are getting up. Well mobs suffering from knockdown are opened to ground finishers, so they're not completely damage immune. More investigation required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alcoholism Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mak_Gohae said: what forum should this go in? It's fine being in General Discussion; even though it seems like you're asking a question, if the answer to that question is "yes it does happen" then it can be discussed as to why it occurs or if it should be occurring. In regards to it occurring, assuming that it is intentional and is not a bug - I'm guessing it's because they want the enemies to have ample time in between CC procs so you can't keep them on the ground permanently. I guess they also have the animation of them getting back up after being knocked down - perhaps they want it to play prior to being killed? If it is the case, then imo I would tend not to use blast CC for fast killing and would only use it in special circumstances. I guess if they have the time/resources to do it, they could add some code where enemies can take damage whilst in that state but make them immune to status effects for the appropriate duration. However I have no idea how buggy or time consuming that approach would be. Edited January 29, 2017 by Alcoholism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: Well mobs suffering from knockdown are opened to ground finishers, so they're not completely damage immune. More investigation required. Yeah, when they are downed they can take dmg, getting up is when i saw the bar turn grey. So if an enemy survives any damage while downed they get the ability to get up and continue on. Which seems like a weird thing to do cause we arent immune as we get up, right? Im hoping this was just some lag or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Madway7 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Anyone test this with Slova or Peaceful Provocation Equinox? Because this might be a hinderence in using them as the enemies become invulnerable (if true) for a longer period of time. Also imo this would have been best in feedback, but with some rephrasing it could belong here (mainly ask if this SHOULD be an aspect of the game rather than ask if it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alcoholism Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mak_Gohae said: Yeah, when they are downed they can take dmg, getting up is when i saw the bar turn grey. So if an enemy survives any damage while downed they get the ability to get up and continue on. Which seems like a weird thing to do cause we arent immune as we get up, right? Im hoping this was just some lag or something. Just went into the simulacrum to test the theory, used ignis with heaps of status chance and purely blast elemental type. When it was downed with blast proc I could use finishers, even when it was getting up. I could also still damage it with my Ignis whilst it was down and whilst it was getting up. So maybe it was something else that caused it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Evanescent Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 i-frames, possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Devinee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said: I knew that enemies recovering from blast procs were immune to further blast procs until they got up again, but full damage immunity seems a bit stupid. Definitely worth more testing. Also, on the topic of subforums, I've always thought it was odd that if you strictly applied the rules there'd be virtually no posts in GD at all. I don't see a problem with this one being here. https://forums.warframe.com/announcement/45-please-read-before-posting-threads-what-is-and-isnt-general-discussion/ exists for a reason Spoiler Players Helping Players is the forum for when you have a question about something in the game or need help with something game-related--such as mod builds for frames/weapons, build comparisons, how to craft certain things, where to find components/mods/enemies, strategies for bosses, etc. Guides, solutions, tips and tricks can all be placed here. With hundreds of thousands of players, there's bound to be one that has experienced the same issue as you and has figured out how to solve it! Edited January 29, 2017 by Devinee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ChuckMaverick Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Devinee said: https://forums.warframe.com/announcement/45-please-read-before-posting-threads-what-is-and-isnt-general-discussion/ exists for a reason Hide contents Players Helping Players is the forum for when you have a question about something in the game or need help with something game-related--such as mod builds for frames/weapons, build comparisons, how to craft certain things, where to find components/mods/enemies, strategies for bosses, etc. Guides, solutions, tips and tricks can all be placed here. With hundreds of thousands of players, there's bound to be one that has experienced the same issue as you and has figured out how to solve it! I know, but try and give a thread topic that belongs in GD rather than another subforum if you strictly follow the rules, it's harder than you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Alcoholism said: Just went into the simulacrum to test the theory, used ignis with heaps of status chance and purely blast elemental type. When it was downed with blast proc I could use finishers, even when it was getting up. I could also still damage it with my Ignis whilst it was down and whilst it was getting up. So maybe it was something else that caused it? i did it on a live mission against the corpus and the bar didnt pop up. When it happened it was a void fissure defense and i noticed it on a corrupted arid lancer. Maybe the corrupted have extra abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ChuckMaverick Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mak_Gohae said: i did it on a live mission against the corpus and the bar didnt pop up. When it happened it was a void fissure defense and i noticed it on a corrupted arid lancer. Maybe the corrupted have extra abilities? Mobs are invulnerable during their transition from normal to corrupted, maybe it was just that and nothing to do with the blast knockdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mak_Gohae Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, ChuckMaverick said: Mobs are invulnerable during their transition from normal to corrupted, maybe it was just that and nothing to do with the blast knockdown? so i knocked the unit down and it transformed while it was getting up? I wasnt paying that much attention to tell that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)Crackle2012 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Moving this to Players helping Players for now since I'm not sure whether blast is causing an issue or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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i just noticed this because of the grey bar thing. Has this been in the game from the start? Cause that kinda defeats the purpose of blast. All that blast proc essentially does is stretch out the fight.
Can anyone else confirm this?
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