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Best DPS endgame frame


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13 minutes ago, THeMooN85 said:

DPS =/= DD

Damage Per Second =/= Damage Dealer

Mesa is DD, Nidus is... well DD, CC, TANK, SUPPORT, HEALER.

The only DPS @Pizzarugimentioned is Banshee (Prime).

 

Other DPS's are Saryn, Ember, Nova, Equinox, Octavia, Chroma.

Wait, what's the difference between Mesa and the DPS frames you mentioned? Or do you count only damage buffers as DPS?

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12 minutes ago, aligatorno said:

Wait, what's the difference between Mesa and the DPS frames you mentioned? Or do you count only damage buffers as DPS?

Nah, Mesa is DD because she can push A LOT of damage at once. She doesn't dealing damage over time as DPS frames do. Mentioned Saryn is dealing damage over time, by her spores, by toxin. Mesa simply shoots things and that shots dealing high amount of damage per bullet. that's why she's DD not DPS.

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11 minutes ago, SaroSuke said:

Question, can Mesa and Saryn kill lvl 100+ enemies ?

Mesa, yes, with a properly modded secondary she kills quite easily. 

SAryn on the other hand, not really, at least not without a proper team. She can halve everyone's health with her Spores, but even with a Viral + Toxic debuff on every enemy her miasma falls short at those levels. 

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19 minutes ago, THeMooN85 said:

Nah, Mesa is DD because she can push A LOT of damage at once. She doesn't dealing damage over time as DPS frames do. Mentioned Saryn is dealing damage over time, by her spores, by toxin. Mesa simply shoots things and that shots dealing high amount of damage per bullet. that's why she's DD not DPS.

So we have a different definition of what DPS means it seems. Damage per Second in most games that I`ve played means the damage that something can dish out in a second, and it is used for  highly damaging ones like rogues and mages. 

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25 minutes ago, aligatorno said:

So we have a different definition of what DPS means it seems. Damage per Second in most games that I`ve played means the damage that something can dish out in a second, and it is used for  highly damaging ones like rogues and mages. 

This is my thinking also as an Old School gamer.  It's also funny how people on the forums tend to leave out Ivara when DPS or Damage Dealing frames are mentioned.  Especially since she's one of the higher damage dealing frames. 

Just for reference:

DoT= Damage over Time

DD= Damage Dealer

DPS= Damage per Second

Mesa can be considered a DPS frame while Saryn is DoT. With Ivara being considered a DD frame.

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5 hours ago, SaroSuke said:

Can anyone give me a good Sary Prime Build ?

That will heavily depend on how you what to play her.  Ranged, melee, Spore, toxic lash and/or a combination of them.  I went with power, duration, and range because I wanted as many options while in the same mission. 

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On 7/10/2017 at 11:42 AM, DatDarkOne said:

This is my thinking also as an Old School gamer.  It's also funny how people on the forums tend to leave out Ivara when DPS or Damage Dealing frames are mentioned.  Especially since she's one of the higher damage dealing frames. 

Just for reference:

DoT= Damage over Time

DD= Damage Dealer

DPS= Damage per Second

Mesa can be considered a DPS frame while Saryn is DoT. With Ivara being considered a DD frame.

Damage over time is literally damage divided by time, or in a more specific term, damage-per-second.  

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18 minutes ago, Desperado14 said:

Damage over time is literally damage divided by time, or in a more specific term, damage-per-second.  

This is true in a way.  The main defining difference can be considered that DoT doesn't require additional activity after the initial action.  While DPS does. Saryn can cast Spore once and do something else while Spore continues to do damage (Damage over Time).  Mesa using Peacemaker has to actively fire for it to continue to do damage (Damage per Second).  To some this is just a minor difference between the two and will use the terms interchangeably.  While others consider it a major difference between the two, and prefer to separate the terms.  Not saying that you're wrong, just giving reasons how they can be used to accurately describe something.  :D

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For damage technically the winner is Equinox but there are some stipulations. Equinox cannot hurt high armored enemies very well and it takes quite a large health pool to beat out Mesa who would prolly be 2nd with a mighty 300k DPS @200% Power Strength. Excal being pretty close in Raw damage but with superior status and Hyseria being right behind him.

The best frames for Solo would prolly be Ivara / Octavia / Ash  at the level cap with Nidus, Mesa, Chroma, Oberon and Trinity all sitting around lvl 400.

The best group frame is Banshee. Hands down.

After that against unarmored a Fireball Frenzy + Flash Accelerant Ember or against armored a Venom Dose Saryn.

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