XEggBertoX Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I just don't understand why people seem to hate nerfs so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 You ever been shot in the eye with a nerf? Hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyxe Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Game too easy = Not fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oKibbles Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Thought you were talking about a Hate nerf. Was like what O_O and because people like to feel god-like. Nerfs mean less godly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Because it means the players get a little weaker. Especially if the nerf isn't "Just right" and lands in the sweet middle ground. It is easy for a nerf to simply swap 'Too good' for 'Too weak'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I have no problem with nerfs. But... I DO have a problem with unneeded nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) I just don't understand why people seem to hate nerfs so much. You ever been shot in the eye with a nerf? Hurts. Isn't it ironic? It's a brand centered around making dangerous things "safe" for children. A modern day travesty. They even promote gun use at an early age. Edited July 20, 2013 by sushidubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIossome Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Because then we would have to settle for Banshee Sound Quake as a standard for Ults(nothing compared to how it was) compared to the newer Ults(looking at you Rhino and Nova). Edited July 20, 2013 by BIossome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I just don't understand why people seem to hate nerfs so much. Because most of the time the people calling for nerfs aren't doing it because the item they want nerfed is actually overpowered, it's because it out competes their pet frame/weapon in a single situation they tested it in. And then there's how a lot of the people who call for nerfs have no idea what makes a weapon or frame OP to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollin4ThePrimes Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) People like to be as powerful as they can be, Ex: Kunai, although they are the best secondary or at least one of and have very good dps people want other weapons to become god tier like them. They just don't see how it takes more work that way, and how it rules out other content if it is simply the best in all categories. Some might say its PvE which then comes back to weapon variation, whats the point if all you see is that one weapon. Nerfs are needed, but only for so much needed things, If anything nerf one aspect and buff another to balance out change which most seem to not enjoy. Edited July 20, 2013 by dadgoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Olympian Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I just don't understand why people seem to hate nerfs so much. Maybe because it most of the time makes something much less useful than it was. Imagine a world where Kuani were realistic and did 20-10 damage as bullets and lasers should be strong than a hunk of metal called the Kuani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V0LK Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 They even promote gun use at an early age. That's just stupidity in its finest. Kids play with sticks from the dawn of times, so trees promote a sword use and violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XEggBertoX Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 The thing is that there are some weapons that I never see anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That's just stupidity in its finest. Kids play with sticks from the dawn of times, so trees promote a sword use and violence? Yes. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That's just stupidity in its finest. Kids play with sticks from the dawn of times, so trees promote a sword use and violence? Yes. We must BURN THEM ALL DOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That's just stupidity in its finest. Kids play with sticks from the dawn of times, so trees promote a sword use and violence? All aboard the Serious Business train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That's just stupidity in its finest... I think that's a complement... XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicshuter Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Oh God you scared me, I thought they nerfed Hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Oh God you scared me, I thought they nerfed Hate. Not gonna lie I thought that too when I clicked on this thread. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relkin Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Ever play planetside 2? Seesawing just doesn't work, it's unmanageable and creates a balance cluster F***. It's more sensible to just bring other things up to speed and then balance on the opposition side until its all equal. The only problem is that this can lead to an arms race but that can be addressed via a single balance overhaul pass with minor tweaks after bc you can't just cut 20% off of everything's damage and expect it to all work the same way :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XEggBertoX Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Sorry about the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Why the hating on nerfs? Because players don't like their favourite toys to be reduced in OP-ness, as they can't see overall its better for the game even if it hurts them in the short term. Typical human nature at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippen.power Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Because when the game gets too easy its gets boring really quick. i like a little challenge in games but most people just wanna feel ''strong'' in games so thats why they complain everything too hard nightmore mode too hard mamy boo hoo :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Generally Nerfs tend to come about due to either Fan input, Developer's wanting to mix things up and well a Balance oversight. The Weapons and skills for example honestly need a universal buffing -melee especially- to coincide with the enemy buffs cause generally you get stuck with the Highest DPS weapons not cause they are effective but because their the only thing that can reasonable dent higher level enemies. t3 Void tower defense is pretty much don't bother unless you have X, Y Z frame with the following weapons/mods. In Competitive circles... Nerfing can be seen as a form of established elitism. especially if the Devs seem to favor a specific group of players/ a character over the others That's a big issue in Grand chase where it seems if your not A Seig, Lire or Jin main your character is going to get screwed over.... especially since various characters who find effective ways to counter them seem to get nerfed shortly after wards...-it's especially noticeable during PVP season- Nerfs tend to be viewed as either Punishment for finding something effective or a blantant attempt to make players change their style or is shutting them out. Now Game Theory pretty much shows that a good chunk of players are going to go for the "Broken stuff" cause that lets them enjoy higher end content... even if they dislike that particular setup or equipment. Warframe for the most part isn't that bad though/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyBear Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Reading the title i was like NOOOOO they nerfed hate :( then i read the topic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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