Sitchrea Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Edit: This post is feedback on the Arcane system in the Foundry segment, not the equipment upgrade menu. Equipping Arcanes is easy - everything else is not. Allow me to explain why. The new Arcane system requires players to stack Arcanes with more of each type. However, the UI to do so, as well as the lack of key functions, makes the system worse than the previous cosmetic-only system. Problems: The box-based UI is confusing as to which arcane is where. Buttons are far too big and placed far away from each other. A player has to scroll across the entire screen just to upgrade his selected Arcane. In essence: too much mouse movement, UI does not guide player well. Arcanes cannot be downgraded. Combined with the point above, many players have been left with duplicate arcanes of the same level they cannot get rid of or recycle, thus making them unusable. Arcanes are not filtered well. Rarities are intermingled among one another because they are sorted alphabetically. This combined with point 1 to make the player even more confused when trying to simply locate a specific arcane. Proposed solutions: Make arcanes upgradable like mods - upgrade them additively up to level 10. One arcane = one additional level on the arcane. Arcane increases in power at the already determined intervals of 1,3,6, and 10 Allow downgrade of Arcanes. Fliter arcanes by default via rarity to guide players' eyes via color. Sort arcanes into rows of five or six instead of three. Place the upgrade UI closer to the arcane selection submenu. I hope my feedback is helpful. Edited March 1, 2018 by Sitchrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDarknessAlien Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 And? hard? really? Just equip it in warframe no more in cosmetic itens, you can use two arcanes types, example i use in my warframe arcane deflection, and resistance, what complex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Also, arcanes now follow the same trade tax as with mods. Rarest arcanes cost 1 million credits each to trade. This is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, PhoenixShadowEvil said: And? hard? really? Just equip it in warframe no more in cosmetic itens, you can use two arcanes types, example i use in my warframe arcane deflection, and resistance, what complex? This is not about the equipment UI. This post is about the Arcane system in the Foundry segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stoner said: Also, arcanes now follow the same trade tax as with mods. Rarest arcanes cost 1 million credits each to trade. This is absurd. Which means you will want them either fully ranked or at the right rank. And since when Credits are an issue in this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HELLKITE_503 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 anyone knows if you can equip the same arcane in different warframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INight00 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The only thing I agree on here is the downgrade. As duplicates appear consumed... unless I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Stoner said: Also, arcanes now follow the same trade tax as with mods. Rarest arcanes cost 1 million credits each to trade. This is absurd. But you get a lot of credits from raids right? Oh wait.... they're gone. XD Probably added this in to account for the fact that you can now repeatedly grind for arcanes, and that the value of the legendary arcanes would drop massively. Not the whole 'cap arcane farming once a day' thing, but definitely adds somewhat of a rarity mechanic to it. Thank goodness I completed my energize, grace and a few others before the rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryotekk Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 please for the love of god make them able to be downgraded i have 6 energizes and because the UI is so clunky to use i upgraded it once then went to upgrade it a second time and it didnt upgrade the first one to rank 2 it just upgraded a separate one to rank 1. now i have 2 rank 1 arcane energizes and no way to fix it cant even equip two lower ranks of the same arcane at the same time pls fix this DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDarknessAlien Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Well DE make upgrade and other day some hotfix just wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackNeutron Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Still waiting an update for downgrading arcane...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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