Radial Howl Casting Animation Too Long

[Kurambik]

Seriously... You cannot use it to save your life when surrounded like Radial Blind because it gives the enemies enough time to turn you into a swiss cheese of bullet holes. At least if the animation is to be kept, Have it release the "blind" immediately upon cast OR make Exalted Blade's slide attack a normal Radial Blind costing the same amount with the same range and finisher proc as the actual RB does on Excalibur/Prime

(I still think that the slide-blind even costing energy was too much in his nerf but that's another issue and irrelevant here)

[konaka123]

The exalted blade's slide attack is a normal radial blind though. Isn't it?

[Nez-Kal]

Soooo.....make Excalibur Umbra a direct Upgrade to Excalibur Prime instead of a Sentient fighting Side-Grade. Brilliant. Can't see THAT going wrong what-so-ever.

[Aleksi134]

Use natural talent if you want shorter animation. Excal umbra is already strong enough he is fine as he is.

[Kurambik]

45 minutes ago, konaka123 said:

The exalted blade's slide attack is a normal radial blind though. Isn't it?

No it's less range, less duration and less cost and doesn't open enemies to finishers

[Midas]

53 minutes ago, Kurambik said:

Seriously... You cannot use it to save your life when surrounded like Radial Blind because it gives the enemies enough time to turn you into a swiss cheese of bullet holes. At least if the animation is to be kept, Have it release the "blind" immediately upon cast OR make Exalted Blade's slide attack a normal Radial Blind costing the same amount with the same range and finisher proc as the actual RB does on Excalibur/Prime

(I still think that the slide-blind even costing energy was too much in his nerf but that's another issue and irrelevant here)

You need to use finishers to gain invis, it hits through walls + strips damage resist from sentients. You can also roll and cast.

[Kurambik]

31 minutes ago, Aleksi134 said:

Use natural talent if you want shorter animation. Excal umbra is already strong enough he is fine as he is.

Considering he has 3 slots that force me to use specific mods no natural talent is not an option. Anyone who plays Excal a good amount will definitely tell you that RB is hands down his best ability 

[Kurambik]

1 minute ago, Vladimir said:

You need to use finishers to gain invis, it hits through walls + strips damage resist from sentients. You can also roll and cast.

Invis is only from his sword which I do not use, resistances from sentients are irrelevant when you can still take down a lv155 in literally 5 seconds, enemies behind walls are no threat to you. Rolling while casting still doesn't fix the issue that it is clunky as hell

[Midas]

1 minute ago, Kurambik said:

Invis is only from his sword which I do not use, resistances from sentients are irrelevant when you can still take down a lv155 in literally 5 seconds, enemies behind walls are no threat to you. Rolling while casting still doesn't fix the issue that it is clunky as hell

I am pretty sure it is warframe oriented, I can test it really fast. One could say you can still hit them with your 4 while build damage or silence for cc.

Edited June 16, 2018 by Vladimir

[Kurambik]

10 minutes ago, Vladimir said:

I am pretty sure it is warframe oriented, I can test it really fast. One could say you can still hit them with your 4 while build damage or silence for cc.

It's definitely just with the nikana

[Midas]

9 minutes ago, Kurambik said:

It's definitely just with the nikana

you are correct, they should just add it to the frame imo. A guy earlier said Umbra did it and asked me why I am playing a lower tier excal prime. I assumed he was telling the truth but I thought wrong.

[Kurambik]

3 minutes ago, Vladimir said:

you are correct, they should just add it to the frame imo. A guy earlier said Umbra did it and asked me why I am playing a lower tier excal prime. I assumed he was telling the truth but I thought wrong.

The invis from the nikana works on all frames too. Basically a discount Trickery for a Fatal Teleport Ash

[Midas]

5 minutes ago, Kurambik said:

The invis from the nikana works on all frames too. Basically a discount Trickery for a Fatal Teleport Ash

hmm I guess rolling works then and maybe a small buff to casting speed (you would have to make it LoS instead of AoE).

[Aleksi134]

39 minutes ago, Kurambik said:

Considering he has 3 slots that force me to use specific mods no natural talent is not an option. Anyone who plays Excal a good amount will definitely tell you that RB is hands down his best ability 

It is an option. Its just upto you if you need it or not. The 3 mandatory mods already cover alot of stuff. You only need a bit of range and duration and chromatic blade, primed flow, you still got a slot left for anything you want streamline, natural talent, another strenght mod if you are crazy.

[Ishteen]

34 minutes ago, Vladimir said:

it hits through walls + strips damage resist from sentients. You can also roll and cast.

Wanted to briefly chime in - I've done some testing in the Simulacrum, and it seems that Radial Howl is still LoS-based. It does not affect enemies unless I see them, or they see me - much like Radial Blind.

Like OP, I would advocate for a shorter cast time. About two seconds before the actual blind emerges can be a death sentence on higher-level content, and the Sentient resistance removal is tied to the blind. Given how much damage Conculysts and Battalysts can inflict at a moment's notice, you'd want to lock them down as soon as possible; Howl's lengthy cast doesn't allow for that. Lastly, Sentients still gain CC resilience from each usage of Howl, so even the blind will only last a fraction of a second - and it's still associated with nearly two seconds of unmodded CT.

[Kurambik]

3 minutes ago, Aleksi134 said:

It is an option. Its just upto you if you need it or not. The 3 mandatory mods already cover alot of stuff. You only need a bit of range and duration and chromatic blade, primed flow, you still got a slot left for anything you want streamline, natural talent, another strenght mod if you are crazy.

There's a legit reason why you would need 180% strength. Chromatic Blade becomes 100% status chance at base allowing you to upgrade your elemental mods to their more damaging variants. Also Rage?

[Aleksi134]

1 minute ago, Kurambik said:

There's a legit reason why you would need 180% strength. Chromatic Blade becomes 100% status chance at base allowing you to upgrade your elemental mods to their more damaging variants. Also Rage?

Well thats again upto you. You can reach 100% still and its only 30% elemental damage difference in the end. And on the other hand like you said you could use rage,natural talent,streamline. It really depends what you want.

[Midas]

2 minutes ago, Aleksi134 said:

Well thats again upto you. You can reach 100% still and its only 30% elemental damage difference in the end. And on the other hand like you said you could use rage,natural talent,streamline. It really depends what you want.

then u use 2 for 100% crit chance for the extra memes and condit overload for that massive damage.